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I'm headed off to get my daughter from sage walk
Anne Bonney:
--- Quote from: ""TheWho"" ---I wouldnt rub it in too much. You may chase him/her away, they posed a good argument but were a bit confused about the benefits of wilderness. There are alot of people here (yourself included,Anne, if I am not mistaken) who think these wilderness programs hire people who practice mind control and weird stuff like Chinese torture which is a little strange. So they probably got this idea reading stuff here on fornits, so it ma not be their ideas.
Ease up on the person, they may have ideas of their own to contribute.
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Once again, you put words in others' mouths. These programs that use the therapeutic community method of 'treatment' are using brainwashing techniques that were developed by the Chinese and the Koreans. It has a lot of names, behavior modification/re-education/thought reform/redirection.....but its all the same when you break it down to its basics. That's why it can never be made safe. The basics, the fundamentals, the very things that make the programs "work" are dangerous in and of themselves. In order to achieve these miraculous changes you pro-program people are so fond of babbling about (yes, they do produce changes...but for how long and at what price?) against the will of the child (you've admitted that none of them would choose to be there), you have to break that will first and that's never pretty.
Troll Control:
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--- Quote from: ""TheWho"" ---You initially sounded like someone who had experienced wilderness but apparently you are just trolling us. You must be the same guy who said he was subjected to Chinese torture and mind control. You lose a ton of credibility when you try to talk about something you know nothing about or making up stories.
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I wouldnt rub it in too much. You may chase him/her away, they posed a good argument but were a bit confused about the benefits of wilderness. There are alot of people here (yourself included,Anne, if I am not mistaken) who think these wilderness programs hire people who practice mind control and weird stuff like Chinese torture which is a little strange. So they probably got this idea reading stuff here on fornits, so it ma not be their ideas.
Ease up on the person, they may have ideas of their own to contribute.
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Is TheWho now claiming to be a hermaphrodite? Why does he refere to himself (herself?) as a "him/her"? Also, why does he quote him/herself and refere to self as someone else? Very strange indeed...
TheWho:
--- Quote from: ""Anne Bonney"" ---Once again, you put words in others' mouths. These programs that use the therapeutic community method of 'treatment' are using brainwashing techniques that were developed by the Chinese and the Koreans. It has a lot of names, behavior modification/re-education/thought reform/redirection.....but its all the same when you break it down to its basics. That's why it can never be made safe. The basics, the fundamentals, the very things that make the programs "work" are dangerous in and of themselves. In order to achieve these miraculous changes you pro-program people are so fond of babbling about (yes, they do produce changes...but for how long and at what price?) against the will of the child (you've admitted that none of them would choose to be there), you have to break that will first and that's never pretty.
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Look, Anne, get past the Chinese water torture, no one is buying it. You are using scare tactics. They use behavior modification. You used Behavior modification on your own kids, you just don’t know it. If they did something good you said “Good Jobâ€
Troll Control:
I didn't read anything about "Chinese water torture" except your conflation of "techniques developed by the Chinese and Koreans."
To anyone educated in this arena it is painfully obvious and verifiable through documentation that the indoctrination process and behavior modification program used by "the industry" have their roots in the reeducation camps of North Korea. To deny this fact is moronic.
Denying this fact shows that the utterer is woefully uneducated in psychology. I hope this clears up TheWho's conflation of the issue.
TheWho:
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