Author Topic: ISABELLE ZEHNDER (CAICA) HAS A BOARD OF DIRECTORS? (Read 9301 times)

Anonymous · « **Reply #15 on:** July 05, 2007, 11:14:00 PM »

Can these Izzy folks not read?

Izzy referred PATTI to Sue Scheff/PURE BEFORE she ever engaged in email exchanges and phone calls with PATTI.

Izzy decided to refer PATTI to Sue Scheff/PURE just from the information she was given by her MySpace friend, Sandy.
READ!!!!!!

Anonymous · « **Reply #16 on:** July 06, 2007, 01:31:46 AM »

Isabelle Zehnder can protest all she wants, but referring children into unregulated programs by way of her friend and colleague's company PURE is proof positive that CAICA does not live up to it's disclaimer of not referring children to programs. Whether it happened once, twice, or dozens of times, it does not matter. What matters is it happened.

That's my personal take on the situation.

Anonymous · « **Reply #17 on:** July 06, 2007, 01:49:33 AM »

It appears three of the comments posted on this blog in support of CAICA were written by people chosen by Isabelle Zehnder as CAICA ADVOCATES OF THE MONTH.

Cathy Corry
Mark Caldwell
Dawn Chase

http://pattiatwoods.blogspot.com/

Anonymous · « **Reply #18 on:** July 06, 2007, 01:58:22 AM »

Wasn't Sue Scheff an "Advocate of the Month?"

Wonder why she's not commenting? After all she was on the receiving end of her friend Izzy's referral, wasn't she?
Gotta wonder how strong this "friendship" might be, since Izzy seemed to think that the PURE TELEPHONE NUMBER was Sue's private home phone number.

Wonder why Izzy didn't just DISCLOSE that she was handing out the phone number to PURE?

Anonymous · « **Reply #19 on:** July 06, 2007, 02:08:58 AM »

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Wasn't Sue Scheff an "Advocate of the Month?"

Wonder why she's not commenting? After all she was on the receiving end of her friend Izzy's referral, wasn't she?
Gotta wonder how strong this "friendship" might be, since Izzy seemed to think that the PURE TELEPHONE NUMBER was Sue's private home phone number.

Wonder why Izzy didn't just DISCLOSE that she was handing out the phone number to PURE?

It is odd isn't it? Zehnder claiming she had permission to give this person her friend's private/home number when in reality, it was PURE's business number?

What was Zehnder's explanation, assuming she even offered one?

Anonymous · « **Reply #20 on:** July 06, 2007, 02:13:19 AM »

So who ARE the Caica board members?

T.I.A.

Anonymous · « **Reply #21 on:** July 06, 2007, 03:11:23 AM »

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Yes she did. she referred Patti to sunrise to transport her nephew from TB to a program recommended by PURE.

No, actually if you read closer she was supposed to coach him over the summer to try to get him into a safe local private school in the fall. Remember?

It was Patti's sister who wanted the names of two programs and Patti was just appeasing her sister. So read it again.

Anonymous · « **Reply #22 on:** July 06, 2007, 03:36:03 AM »

Click on this link http://helpteentroubled.com/

It leads to other links, including this:

http://www.parentteenguide.com/?OVRAW=H ... 7487696011

Which leads to Lifelines, a WWASPS marketing site.

And straight to Teen Help. http://teenhelp.us/

It's hard to imagine why you'd go after an advocate who doesn't even allow a single ad on her site, especially leading to WWASPS, and you say nothing about this guy who's Anti-WWASPS straight to WWASPS.

Now I know you say it's not just the big programs that are abusive, but think about the thousands of kids suffering at the hands of WWASPS.

Anonymous · « **Reply #23 on:** July 06, 2007, 03:36:41 AM »

How about Isabelle saying: I'm sorry Patti.. I don't recommend to programs. I can help you with your situation..by giving you some off the record advise on how to get your nefew out of TB... but, I am afraid it would be unethical of me ... as an advocate ... who can NOT assure the safety of your nefew if your sister were to put him into another program.

Isabelle-- if you plan to continue to "advocate" you need to get a backbone. It doesnt matter it the parent "asked" or not. You still refered them to Sue .. who has refered parents to UNSAFE programs. It is documented. Your support of that has lost you credibility. It matters not if "Patti" was real or not. If you were to stand up to a parent and say.. I do not support placing children in these types of programs.. so I can not refer you to anyone.. is another way to get the point accross to the parent .. these are bad .. stay away from them. It is completely obvious you jumped at refering to Sue. There is not any discussion that there was any kind of struggle to get that info from you. She asked.. you provided. Simple as that. What was it a day later.. you and Sue came "out" and admitted to "teamwork?". Back peddle as you may.. it is all documented.

Anonymous · « **Reply #24 on:** July 06, 2007, 03:46:02 AM »

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Click on this link http://helpteentroubled.com/

It leads to other links, including this:

http://www.parentteenguide.com/?OVRAW=H ... 7487696011

Which leads to Lifelines, a WWASPS marketing site.

And straight to Teen Help. http://teenhelp.us/

It's hard to imagine why you'd go after an advocate who doesn't even allow a single ad on her site, especially leading to WWASPS, and you say nothing about this guy who's Anti-WWASPS straight to WWASPS.

Now I know you say it's not just the big programs that are abusive, but think about the thousands of kids suffering at the hands of WWASPS.

From the www.antiwwasp.com website

Anonymous · « **Reply #25 on:** July 06, 2007, 03:48:08 AM »

Quote from: ""Guest""

Click on this link http://helpteentroubled.com/

It leads to other links, including this:

http://www.parentteenguide.com/?OVRAW=H ... 7487696011

Which leads to Lifelines, a WWASPS marketing site.

And straight to Teen Help. http://teenhelp.us/

It's hard to imagine why you'd go after an advocate who doesn't even allow a single ad on her site, especially leading to WWASPS, and you say nothing about this guy who's Anti-WWASPS straight to WWASPS.

Now I know you say it's not just the big programs that are abusive, but think about the thousands of kids suffering at the hands of WWASPS.

You have posted this on the wrong thread.. this belongs on the WWASP thread. They have their own niche here as well. Trying to diluting what Sue/IZ do by pointing fingers at does not deflect from the fact they directly or indirectly refer parents to programs that are unsafe and abusive in nature.

Anonymous · « **Reply #26 on:** July 06, 2007, 03:56:32 AM »

Quote from: ""Guest""

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Click on this link http://helpteentroubled.com/

It leads to other links, including this:

http://www.parentteenguide.com/?OVRAW=H ... 7487696011

Which leads to Lifelines, a WWASPS marketing site.

And straight to Teen Help. http://teenhelp.us/

It's hard to imagine why you'd go after an advocate who doesn't even allow a single ad on her site, especially leading to WWASPS, and you say nothing about this guy who's Anti-WWASPS straight to WWASPS.

Now I know you say it's not just the big programs that are abusive, but think about the thousands of kids suffering at the hands of WWASPS.

From the www.antiwwasp.com website

If I am not mistaken .. that is an ad supported site. The admin of the site can not make a choice in the advertising on the page... anymore than the comericals that come on in your living room.

Anonymous · « **Reply #27 on:** July 06, 2007, 08:08:27 AM »

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I know she'd never do that, send a kid off to some program. She hates programs as much as you do. Get it? Whether y ou like her or not you should know she'd never send a kid to a program.

How can you make that statement. She did what she did. She referred the parent to PURE who in turn will work to refer the kid to a program.

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How about Isabelle saying: I'm sorry Patti.. I don't recommend to programs. I can help you with your situation..by giving you some off the record advise on how to get your nefew out of TB... but, I am afraid it would be unethical of me ... as an advocate ... who can NOT assure the safety of your nefew if your sister were to put him into another program.

Ditto. Be a true advocate, for the kids, not for PURE. Remember, it is an unregulated industry. The people placing kids and taking care of the kids are ex hospital kitchen workers (example: Scheff) and ex used car salesman (example: Litchfield).

Anonymous · « **Reply #28 on:** July 06, 2007, 08:34:44 AM »

Quote from: ""Guest""

Click on this link http://helpteentroubled.com/

It leads to other links, including this:

http://www.parentteenguide.com/?OVRAW=H ... 7487696011

Which leads to Lifelines, a WWASPS marketing site.

And straight to Teen Help. http://teenhelp.us/

It's hard to imagine why you'd go after an advocate who doesn't even allow a single ad on her site, especially leading to WWASPS, and you say nothing about this guy who's Anti-WWASPS straight to WWASPS.

Now I know you say it's not just the big programs that are abusive, but think about the thousands of kids suffering at the hands of WWASPS.

A day late and a dollar short sugar tits. We already took his ass down.

Anonymous · « **Reply #29 on:** July 06, 2007, 09:04:32 AM »

Stop the spamming--the Kevin August issue at anti-wwasp website was settled when he deleted his "referral compay" from that website. Unlike IZZY, he aplogized and SAYS he got his butt out of the business of selling kids into PROGRAMS.

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