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Paul St. John:
There was a woman who there with a serious back condition. She was a kid at the time.  It was well-known that she had this condition.. it was verified by doctors, etc.


.. and they forced her to do all kinda shit, to intentionally further hurt her back, and she is permanently damaged, because of these assholes.

I'll tell ya, it is hard for me to keep my cool, and be objective, when I think about this shit.

These people are true villains.  Elan is an evil that exists in this world, and that is not being dramatic.

Paul St. John

Matt C. Hoffman:
Paul ,

You are most correct and truthful in your post . I am a witness to the absolutely criminally abusive torture (for lack of a better word for it ) that this young woman went thru, many many years ago.

I do not want to mention her name , because it is not my place and I have not asked her for her permission to do so.

I know exactly Paul, who you are speaking of ,and what that women went thru is from another planet and if memory serves it was kruglik that seemed to enjoy it the most and was the bastard that was giving the direction of her ABUSE.

God what they did to that young girl  is so bazarre that you wouldn't believe it if I mentioned it .

Sad thing is that ELAN was doing very similar ,criminally abusive torture ,to many other kids and adults during at the same time during my time.  

WICH WAS         JULY OF      1974        TO        JULY OF    1976

Yes Paul I am a witness to her and many others.

DannyB II:

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--- Quote from: "Matt C. Hoffman" ---Paul ,

You are most correct and truthful in your post . I am a witness to the absolutely criminally abusive torture (for lack of a better word for it ) that this young woman went thru, many many years ago.

I do not want to mention her name , because it is not my place and I have not asked her for her permission to do so.

I know exactly Paul, who you are speaking of ,and what that women went thru is from another planet and if memory serves it was kruglik that seemed to enjoy it the most and was the bastard that was giving the direction of her ABUSE.

God what they did to that young girl  is so bazarre that you wouldn't believe it if I mentioned it .

Sad thing is that ELAN was doing very similar ,criminally abusive torture ,to many other kids and adults during at the same time during my time.  

WICH WAS         JULY OF      1974        TO        JULY OF    1976

Yes Paul I am a witness to her and many others.
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Are we talking about one of the owners nieces or is it another person. Once again my memory doesn't serve me.

Paul St. John:
What about schools?

The schools that sent people there?

Could they be swayed/ influenced against Elan, using nothing but legitimate facts?  What if they went after Elan? They would probably fair better then just a handful of past residents, as far as organisation, etc.

I once read ( I don t know if it is true, that Elan has all the decent lawyers in their area, under their thumb).

Maybe the thing to do is to have to bring them outta their cozy little woods, tucked away in Polands Spring, Maine?

Hey people could technically, I think, even bring suit against the schools that sent them there.  With the facts of the horrid things that happened there, yuo would think taht they would want to seperate themselves from Elan, and perhaps, even sure Elan, based on that.

.... or at the least, take a stance of "Elan did us wrong.  We thought they were helping our students."

I think one of the keys is to get them out of there woods.

Paul
PS Of course, Anyone who gets involved with anything  should know that these fuckers will not play fair...

.. and will play the victims.

lol.. in case you don t already know.

Joe Ricci escaped justice through death, but there are many others who belong behind bars.  This requires a huge movement.  The more momentum it gains, the better things will be.. It would require persistence from everyone involved.

Ursus:
Personally, I think one of the biggest roadblocks in facilitating exposure to abuses occurring or having occurred at Elan ... is that it is located in the State of Maine. The way things work there, Social Services, the police departments, the politicians, the newspapers... they all side with each other against "outsiders" or "out-of-staters." The longer a place has been around, the more cred it has as being part of the home-boy establishment.

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