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xres8182:
Hello,my name is Jim. I stopped posting here awhile back for obvious reasons. I just wanted to let you know that when I was in Elan nobody was notified when a ring event happened. I witnessed my friend Phil Williams' death as a result of a brain aneurysm immediately following one of these "rings'. It was very disturbing. He didn't even have parents to call. Actually that is only partly true,but I don't think the state prison takes calls from Elan. I don't know when they started calling parents to approve rings. It seems crazy that parents would approve such actions against their own children.

Ursus:

--- Quote from: ""xres8182"" ---Hello,my name is Jim. I stopped posting here awhile back for obvious reasons. I just wanted to let you know that when I was in Elan nobody was notified when a ring event happened. I witnessed my friend Phil Williams' death as a result of a brain aneurysm immediately following one of these "rings'. It was very disturbing. He didn't even have parents to call. Actually that is only partly true,but I don't think the state prison takes calls from Elan. I don't know when they started calling parents to approve rings. It seems crazy that parents would approve such actions against their own children.
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Hi Jim, I think that was probably my question re. parental notification when a Ring is to be held... I am very sorry about your friend Phil; I was appalled to learn of his death.  I can't believe Elan did not have the shit sued out of it in the aftermath of that.  Yes, a brain aneurysm or burst can happen after "boxing trauma."

xres8182:
Phil's father was in prison for shooting his mother. His mother was in a nursing home in a coma. I used to chapparone him on visits to her bedside. Elan should have been sued for that incident but Phil had nobody in his corner with the means.

Ursus:
Tragic.  Tragic tragic tragic.

Whatever happened to the mother and father?  Any redemption in this story?

Whooter:
I think this thread only touches upon part of the story (unless this was continued from another thread, I apologize)).  I don’t see why the school should be sued.  Is there a state law that says parents need to be notified prior to these engagements?  Or was the school negligent in getting the child the medical help he needed when it became apparent there was a problem?

I, myself, don’t believe in settling differences in this fashion and would have pulled my child out in a heartbeat if this is how conflict was resolved.  I personally find this a very unhealthy way towards conflict resolution.  But I also see there is a double standard here.  Many posters here don’t seem to have a problem reverting to physical violence as a way to settle disagreements here on the forum.  Why do some chid programs when they embrace this same mentality?

If kids were to fight I could see it better supervised then behind a barn somewhere.  But the adults/staff, in charge, should encourage a different approach and move away from violence.



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