Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Aspen Education Group
Academy at Swift River - Split from TTI
TheWho:
--- Quote ---Now, let's examine this, Who: Let's say, for argument's sake that a kid's very own counselor sexually abuses him/her. ASR's plan, as you verified with them like I did, is to have that child report the abuse directly to the person that perpetrated it.
This is downright scary and paves the road for child abuse. I would avoid this facility at all costs. It's dangerous!
--- End quote ---
Sure, DJ, of course it is possible. The guy on the abuse hot line could talk dirty to the kids also, but it is highly unlikely. The hot line never helped the kids who were raped by their teacher at public school, so, the way I see it, you need to do 2 things to convince us one is needed:
1. Determine if the law requires a “Hot Line” to be installed in the school.
2. How effective is this hot line in keeping kids safe.
Troll Control:
Well, since I worked as a therapist for many years, I can answer this. If you don't like my answer, you can "do the work yourself"!
One, anywhere that provides treatment to 24/7 residents (as ASR does) is required by law to provide unfettered access to a free telephone to report abuse (Deb posted the Mass law earlier). So, yes, ASR is required by law to do this.
Two, your premise is totally absurd. You said: "The hot line never helped the kids who were raped by their teacher at public school..." (so why help a raped kid at ASR, right? :roll: ) This may be because there is no abuse hotline at public schools :wink: . The kid can go directly to his/her parents or the police. Also, you're just talking out of your butt. You have no idea about these things, you're just looking for wiggle room after you already scored a devastating ground-zero hit on yourself by confirming with ASR and documenting that there is never any unmonitored contact and that no child can ever use a phone unless directed to so by their counselor (their very own abuser in the above scenario - SICK!).
Three, no hotline ever prevented anything, it is simply a mechanism required by law so that the child can report abuse and be protected from further abuse. If you had your way, the staff would be free to rape kids at will with no way for the kid to report it except to their abuser. Again, very sick!
"Sure! Rape the children as much as you want! Just make sure no one orders pizza!" Oy vey. :roll:
RobertBruce:
Who the abuse hotline is monitored, sometimes even recorded. A counselor is in a much better position to abuse the kids then an operator.
Youre also again ignoring that children services already came into ASR and stated the monitoring of communication that went on was illegal. ASR chose to ignore that law as they found it to be.....inconvienent.
Troll Control:
RB, even responding to "the hotline opertor could talk dirty to the kids" is crazy. In any case, The Who places the same value on physical forcible rape and dirty telephone talk. This is how sick and twisted this guy is!
He has argued that in order to prevent the ordering of pizzas or the dirty talk of the abuse hotline operator ( :roll: God, where do you get this from? ), the kids should be prevented from using the telephone to report abuse by staff, as is current ASR policy documented in the Who's earlier post.
TheWho:
--- Quote from: ""Dysfunction Junction"" ---Well, since I worked as a therapist for many years, I can answer this. If you don't like my answer, you can "do the work yourself"!
One, anywhere that provides treatment to 24/7 residents (as ASR does) is required by law to provide unfettered access to a free telephone to report abuse (Deb posted the Mass law earlier). So, yes, ASR is required by law to do this.
Two, your premise is totally absurd. You said: "The hot line never helped the kids who were raped by their teacher at public school..." (so why help a raped kid at ASR, right? :roll: ) This may be because there is no abuse hotline at public schools :wink: . The kid can go directly to his/her parents or the police. Also, you're just talking out of your butt. You have no idea about these things, you're just looking for wiggle room after you already scored a devastating ground-zero hit on yourself by confirming with ASR and documenting that there is never any unmonitored contact and that no child can ever use a phone unless directed to so by their counselor (their very own abuser in the above scenario - SICK!).
Three, no hotline ever prevented anything, it is simply a mechanism required by law so that the child can report abuse and be protected from further abuse. If you had your way, the staff would be free to rape kids at will with no way for the kid to report it except to their abuser. Again, very sick!
"Sure! Rape the children as much as you want! Just make sure no one orders pizza!" Oy vey. :roll:
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The law you posted applied to mental hospitals. didnt see anything required for boarding schools or TBS's.
So I guess it is fair to say there is no requirement... the rest is moot
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