Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Aspen Education Group
Academy at Swift River - Split from TTI
Troll Control:
--- Quote from: ""TheWho"" ---You are probably a bit younger than I am. But when we needed to call home the nurse or principle would call for us while we were standing there. After they were done they would ask “Would you like to talk to your son?” Then I was put on… the nurse or principle (depending on which room I was in) would busy themselves with paperwork but were within 5 feet of me so there was no privacy.
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OK, so one person within 5 feet of you doing paperwork while you're making a call = "no privacy," BUT four kids at a single table with a counselor monitoring = "privacy"?
You seem confused about this.
Also, from an ASR attendee:
--- Quote ---"And there were call logs taken by the staff there about how your conversation went . If we complained about the school our counselors would most likely start playing the whole "you're manipulating your parents to get out of here", or pull the whole other "you could be at [insert hellhole here]. Somehow, it always came back to you and your issues. "
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Hmmmm... This kid reports not only complete lack of privacy, but also a staff member recording notes about his phonecalls for "group therapy" purposes.
Me thinks The Who is having a little problem with truth-telling again...
TheWho:
DJ Wrote:
--- Quote ---OK, so one person within 5 feet of you doing paperwork while you're making a call = "no privacy," BUT four kids at a single table with a counselor monitoring = "privacy"?
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Ha,Ha,Ha…. I thought I cleared this up…but I keep doing it !!!...sorry....let me repost:
The use of the word Private was ill chosen:
I can see how that could be confusing to some people. I can be a stickler myself sometimes, Let me clarify:
When the kids call home they sit in a partitioned off area, maybe 4 or more at the table, each with their own cubby. The kids cant hear each other and the counselors cant hear you at a normal speaking voice.
--- Quote --- Hmmmm... This kid reports not only complete lack of privacy, but also a staff member recording notes about his phonecalls for "group therapy" purposes.
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I didn’t see this said, go back and look. No mention of group therapy or notes. “Call Logs” are a record (time and date) that the child has called home. They are not required to do this but it is good practice for the sake of the child to insure each child has called home. If the school became regulated they may be required to keep these records for 7 years.
What a log typically wants to document is “Student name”, Time, location, date and a brief description or check box indicating if the call was successful/completed or not.
Hope this helps to clear it up.
Deborah:
--- Quote from: ""TheWho"" ---I didn’t see this said, go back and look. No mention of group therapy or notes.
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--- Quote ---Nalex18 wrote: If you complained to your parents on the phone you had some nice things coming to you in group. It was kind of a "tough shit" type thing. My parents really hate talking about it, but from what has slipped out I guess they sort of got the same response.
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p= ... all#231045
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--- Quote ---“Call Logs” are a record (time and date) that the child has called home. They are not required to do this but it is good practice for the sake of the child to insure each child has called home. What a log typically wants to document is “Student name”, Time, location, date and a brief description or check box indicating if the call was successful/completed or not.
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Apparently more than name, date, time.
--- Quote ---If the school became regulated they may be required to keep these records for 7 years.
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Is that a problem? It would be interesting to see what notes were jotted down to bring up in "group". Also interesting to know how that's handled in/by group.
TheWho:
I was refering to this quote:
--- Quote ---"And there were call logs taken by the staff there about how your conversation went . If we complained about the school our counselors would most likely start playing the whole "you're manipulating your parents to get out of here", or pull the whole other "you could be at [insert hellhole here]. Somehow, it always came back to you and your issues. "
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I didnt see mention of notes or group therapy in the reference by DJ.
Troll Control:
Same poster, same thread, same page, dingbat! "I'm not going to do your work for you." Go back and read the kid's posts. Calls were monitored and the content of the calls was brought up by counselors in group. So not only did they take notes on the content of the calls, those notes were used in group, as Nalex said.
I wonder, if the counselors "couldn't hear" the kids, how did they get detailed notes of the conversations to use in groups? Maybe you can explan that for the rest of us, Who.
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