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« on: April 09, 2007, 07:22:43 PM »
I won't excuse my decision to become a "referral agent" with anyone elses actions, I only hope to offer you some insight into how this became in the first place. After all, with all the inconsistent bullshit that surfaced about the kind of person I am, and after all the alliances formed against me, I had two options. I could look stupid and stop what I had already set in motion, or follow through, see it out, and see what happened. I now look back and see how stupid I was to let other people's opinions dictate my own actions. I really felt pressure like I had to keep going to support my ideas and my newfound idea for a "new kind of program", though their probably all the same...

For those of you unfamiliar with this topic (I don't see how that's possible if you visit this forum), here are the events that unfolded since there will no doubt be so much speculation I won't even be able to stomach it all.

1. Kevin August meets Jimmy Pearce (Employee from Magnolia Christian Center) around december or january, im not going to look at when this was.

2. Kevin decides to try out an non formal and non binding agreement w/ no contract with MCC to see where it goes and find out if smaller schools with a slightly different approach can make any difference in teens lives.

3. Little happens over the course of 3 whole months (referring), while "activists" like TSW of Fornits, Angela of the Liberal Terrorist Organization HEAL, and ExitPlan and Dan the Chainsaw man (CAICA) rage on about how terrible of a person Kevin is, Jimmy is belittled and badmouthed about spanking teens with a paddle, though parents are clearly given the option of not using this as option which is still allowed by MS legislature. The aforementioned parties decide a crusade is best to stop the problem and use their personal time to write messages about Kev and Jim.

4. A personal war wages on over mostly nothing for a lengthy period of time, yielding no results from the propaganda and boycotting tactics of several teen youth "organizations" (if you can call them this). Antiwwasp remains stronger than ever and increases it's total forum post count to almost 2,000, far outnumbering most sites of it's kind.

5. CAICA folds under the pressure from other groups to enact some kind of statement and uses it's democratic power to come to a stalemate on the vote as to whether or not to ban my site, i really dont know about this one, it was Chainsaw Man's idea so you know it's useless. Lots of progress there...

6. Kevin gets tired of the pressure and calls it all off.

7. Kevin laughs at the fornits spinoff known as torturedkids.com. What were you guys thinking? It's not as easy as it looks is it? You have more rules over there than spring creek and antiwwasp combined.

Unfortunately or fortunately, however you see it, I have no results to report as I never profited or made any money from this short lived experiment, though several parents contacted me for help, I never did more than forward 2 emails with the parents contact information.

I think this is valuable information though because it shows that anyone with a small stake invested in the internet (ie. a website), can influence parents with just a few paragraphs saying one thing or another. I'll never neglect my responsibility to remain in opposition to these increasingly popular advocate/referral alliances. I decided instead of perpetuating  this problem I should seek to unite smaller groups into larger ones, it may be the only hope of our combined voices being heard. Several people I'm not too happy with still, but as I'm asking forgiveness for myself, I'll have to do the same for those of you who blatantly lied about me (you know who you are and it doesn't phase me at all).

I think I'll apologize here and now for anyone who was troubled and alarmed by my decision to start referring parents to programs. It was a decision inconsistent with my actual goals for antiwwasp and it's affiliated websites. I hope to re-align myself with any site administrators willing to overlook my poor judgment and impulsive thinking in this matter, as I have by the time of posting this removed the html files from the teenshelp.us web server. It will remain down and will never again be used for the purposes of making referrals to parents or aiding in the decision making process of parents. I really apologize.

After apologizing I find myself with little else to say, except that I was never forced into doing this, I am responsible for my actions, I'm admitting I was wrong, I hope you all move on now that you have what you wanted at the beginning of this problem. If you'd like to continue to battle me and give WWASP and programs like it more power by fighting among ourselves instead of uniting for at least some common problems, I won't object to it if you find yourself that enthralled in achieving making life hard for me. I really see no reason to post about this again, this was just a statement to quiet the masses of those who doubt me, though I made a mistake I hope it wasn't one too grave to forgive, and I look forward to writing more progressively moving information to keep people informed about this problem. Thanks go out to bill and schuyler for their unwavering support for me and AntiWWASP, even when they had to question themselves at times to do so. - Kevin August, administrator of AntiWWASP.com

PS. I don't think anyone has ever done this (apologize at fornits), but I'm interested to see who makes the first post and humiliates themselves by belittling my genuine apology. TSW i'm awaiting your response first and foremost since you are in some ways the leader of this small rebellion against me, this is my ceasefire unless you're not satisfied.
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« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2007, 11:28:02 PM »
Kevin August,
Have you discussed Judge Roybean/Jimmy Pearce's many postings on various teen websites, where he makes posts of a sexual nature to young, young teen age girls?  Do you find this proper behavior for a grown man in his mid-50's who is the "leader" in a CHRISTIAN facility for boys?
Have you viewed this man's MYSPACE account, that shows a picture of a nude young male as one of his MySpace "friend?"
Have you read the postings made by Jimmy Pearce that have been posted here on fornits; and observed his crude, vulgar, sexual language directed at these teenagers?

If you have, and you still support this man and the school where he works, then you still have problems you need to address.

Why haven't these issues regarding THE JUDGE been addressed on Anti-WWASP, where this man posts regulary?
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« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2007, 11:58:15 PM »
Quote from: ""Kevin August""
3. Little happens over the course of 3 whole months (referring), while "activists" like TSW of Fornits, Angela of the Liberal Terrorist Organization HEAL

Wooh I love that one...  TERRIST!!!!  They hate our freedoms!!!!  

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, and ExitPlan and Dan the Chainsaw man (CAICA)

Way to go guys!!!

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rage on about how terrible of a person Kevin is, Jimmy is belittled and badmouthed about spanking teens with a paddle, though parents are clearly given the option of not using this as option which is still allowed by MS legislature. The aforementioned parties decide a crusade is best to stop the problem and use their personal time to write messages about Kev and Jim.

And it worked!  Once again, good going guys.

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5. CAICA folds under the pressure from other groups to enact some kind of statement and uses it's democratic power to come to a stalemate on the vote as to whether or not to ban my site, i really dont know about this one, it was Chainsaw Man's idea so you know it's useless. Lots of progress there...

I guess you should have paid CACA off like a certain other traitor.

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7. Kevin laughs at the fornits spinoff known as torturedkids.com. What were you guys thinking? It's not as easy as it looks is it? You have more rules over there than spring creek and antiwwasp combined.

Different purpose.

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I'll never neglect my responsibility to remain in opposition to these increasingly popular advocate/referral alliances. I decided instead of perpetuating  this problem I should seek to unite smaller groups into larger ones

unite smaller groups into large ones... good definition of an alliance there.

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Several people I'm not too happy with still, but as I'm asking forgiveness for myself

Well.. as far as i'm concerned, you aren't sorry.. so no. go fuck yourself.

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I think I'll apologize here and now for anyone who was troubled and alarmed by my decision to start referring parents to programs. It was a decision inconsistent with my actual goals for antiwwasp and it's affiliated websites. I hope to re-align myself with any site administrators willing to overlook my poor judgment and impulsive thinking in this matter, as I have by the time of posting this removed the html files from the teenshelp.us web server. It will remain down and will never again be used for the purposes of making referrals to parents or aiding in the decision making process of parents. I really apologize.

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Well that was better...  But calling HEAL a liberal terrist organization..  hmm...  Ain't seein the sincerity there.  You admit that you're wrong.. and yet you condemn others for fighting you on it...  What others decide to do is thier issue, and I have other assholes to fry, but if I was in the situation of an ex-WWASP inmate... I would probably tell you to go fuck youself and go elsewhere to fight WWASP.  Never trust a traitor.  I wouldn't want an ally I couldn't trust (one that has already shown the willingness to blend personal profit with advocacy... a bit like Sue Sue, and CACA)...  It's a slippery slope, you went down it, and as far as i'm concerned, only pulled out becuase you were getting your ass righteously kicked.  I don't think you would be here apologizing if you were successful in your endeavors.  I think the most honorable thing you could do at this point is give up ownership of anti-wwasp to somebody a little more trustworthy.  Furthermore, you have a really really shitty lack in judgement (Jimmy Pearce).  If i was allied with you, I would consider that a huge liability.

So it wasn't TSW to shit on you first.  If I didn't have finals during the time this was going on, you can bet i'd be there slamming you too.
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« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2007, 12:16:52 AM »
By CAICA he actually means CAFETY. I'd rather choke myself out than post on any board hosted by CAICA.

Dan the Chainsawman is Three Springs Waygookin.. didn't realize that was some secret. I thought I had made it plain again and again.


I need an apology from Kevin like I need a 3rd eye ball. I do however want him to refrain from aiding the illegal incarceration of children. This he has agreed to stop doing so I'm off to go find something else to do. The whining and such isn't much my concern. I didn't expect anything sincere from him in the first place.

Like I said in the other thread Kevin has had his 15 minutes of fame and its time to move on. His day in the sun is over.

Time to forget about him.
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« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2007, 12:19:07 AM »
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So it wasn't TSW to shit on you first.


Actually when all of this broke out 3 months ago I was preaching moderation and such. It certainly wasn't me who shat on him first. Though I haven't been shy about not letting this matter drop either.
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« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2007, 12:24:46 AM »
You guys, he apologized, he made a mistake and admitted it. Why not do the decent thing and accept the apology........ :cry:  :o  :lol:  :x
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« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2007, 12:29:38 AM »
Quote from: ""Three Springs Waygookin""
I need an apology ...I need a 3rd eye ball... I ... want him ... aiding the illegal incarceration of children....I'm off to go find something else to do...whining and such isn't much my concern.


That's horrible!
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« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2007, 12:30:47 AM »
Enough w/ the brow beating, guys. Look, I'll make a confession and also claim some good sense and real wisdom. When I bailed from straight, not only did I not fight it, I turned down an invitation to join a suit. Wasn't that I didn't care about what happened in the intervening years it's that 1) I didn't know what would happen, I thought they were just a small band of crack pots who would self destruct w/o my help and 2)I was confused, addled, scared shitless of these people who had somehow taken over a good deal of real estate in my mind and I didn't think I could go back there and return with my sanity.  (no, that's probably the first reason... I remember thinking "my sanity, some money.... my sanity, a shot at some cash...." It was a weighty decision, I already had a baby to house and feed and cloth by then)

Kevin, I think you just got pushed by someone who's very adept at pushing just the buttons you have in place and who's very convincing because he's a zealot. Take some time, get back in school if you're not already, think things through.
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« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2007, 12:39:39 AM »
Fair enough Ginger.
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« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2007, 01:00:06 AM »
So in the general spirit of things:

Here is to another person seeing the light and coming to his senses:

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« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2007, 01:02:56 PM »
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I had two options. I could look stupid and stop what I had already set in motion, or follow through, see it out, and see what happened.


You chose to put kids at risk, instead of "looking stupid" which was your real mistake. It wouldn't have made you "look stupid" to stop your referall business, actually it would have made you look very intelligent and willing to reevaluate your decisions. Admitting a mistake does not make you look stupid. I am glad you finally realized it, but in the future you should be less concerned with how you look, and more concerned with doing what is right.
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« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2007, 01:36:20 PM »
I'm writing a Dylan-esque folk song to commemorate this fine occasion, a number called "The Ballad of Catman and Poochie".
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« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2007, 02:34:17 PM »
I think it's funny how you feel righteous like you just liberated Iraq or something. You can act like the pressure you applied to me made a dent in my visitor counts and the activity going on in my forums, but the truth remains, nothing changed from your rediculous tirade of self absorption. You would fight cheese if you didn't like it TSW or Dan or whoever the hell you are. Do you really think I've read your other posts to figure out you have two different names? You don't deserve that much time from anyone.. I love that you've bestowed me the honor of renting out your sig on fornits, what can i say, im honored to be paid so much attention from someone who says my 15 minutes is over.

I almost want to spite your disrespectful attitude by putting TeensHelp back up, and then dedicating it in your honor. A real man would have moved on already, but you chose your fight and I told you I wasn't going anywhere if you needed to find me.

This is a point in my life to rebuild, but I would put money on the fact that your little website (yes the new fornits you've created with umbra), will ultimately fail. Where's your little butt buddy Milk Gargling Cum Guzzler when you need him to help out with his technical prowess?

Are you not the same person who was going to donate to Antiwwasp (up to the very day that TeensHelp was created) and the same person who talked to me about Prosser football? If you can't see how stuck you are on the fact that I burned you (by creating teenshelp) a few months ago, then you really are being a bit foolish. Don't patronize me with "I'm sticking up for the kids", because it's getting old. You're not doing shit for anyone besides creating drama. Drama whore, just quit talking so I don't feel the need to neglect real responsibilities to deal with your fundamentally flawed set of personality traits.

If you really want it I guess we can go back and forth, I have more important things to do but I'm getting tired of how you push people around. One thing is certain, I'd make sure that webserver of yours is nice and tight, wouldn't want anyone who knows what they are doing to sneak in and deface your new haven of liberation.
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« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2007, 03:15:30 PM »
Answer the question, KEVIN,
What do you plan to do about having a PERVERT like the JUDGE/Jimmy Pearce posting all over Anti-wwasp?
This guy seems to love kiddie porn talke, and naked pictures of little boys.

Talk your "fight" with TSW to PM...no one cares!
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« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2007, 03:49:12 PM »
I thought this was the place to fight... That's all that ever occurs here. Progressive discussions seem to be a thing of the past of fornits. I don't control what people post at antiwwasp, I'm not a dictator nor have I ever been. I won't remove Jim's access to my forums due to your interpretation of the kind of person he is on myspace. How fucking dumb are you guest? What if the president had the ability to revoke your right to speak somehow? Jesus, u moron...

What he does is no longer my concern, as I see it he has enough problems as it is with people like you turning a snowball into an avalanche. He has admitted his involvement in the paddling of a student, WHEN A PARENT HAS GIVEN THAT AUTHORITY... Since this practice is allowed by law in MS, unless you vote there, you can't change this nor can I. How about you focus on what you can do...

What would it accomplish for me to delete his posts?

I will inform you that his access to a hidden part of the forums that very few people have access to, has been revoked due to a vote that took place yesterday with my moderators.

I would also like to tell everyone that I have denied a request from Magnolia yesterday to continue to refer to them should they change their "paddling" policy which isn't very important to their facility in the first place.

I have inspired change which is good, so perhaps they will change this policy and move on. What have you done to help our youth lately guest? I've would estimate I've informed more than 200,000 parents seeking more biased info about WWASP since July of 05. I've also by some accounts just made a program a bit safer for some teens in MS. They will be watching their asses for sure now, even if this whole thing had to blow up in my face to accomplish this. You all talk but where is the action? I'm out here doing something...

What most people don't know is that I was working closely with this school to enact some policy changes that I felt would align them more closely with ASTART's guidelines. I have been repeatedly told that the spanking issue is almost non-existant. It was blown out of proportion to fuel TSW's war.

It should make everyone feel good to know that there are spies of sorts on your side, that would be considered by some to be more deceptive than MCC. Several people who posed as parents called the school for more information, hence the paddling discussion. Special thanks to "Yolanda" lol for that email that I had to read. [email protected] or some nonsense is owned by a woman who portrays herself as a parent to gain insight into programs that she feels may be abusive. Very honest people here.
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