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remebering myself

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psy:

--- Quote from: ""Oz girl"" ---Perhaps there needs to be a specialist counselling service for those who have come out of this system
--- End quote ---


First off... At least for me, I don't feel that confortable with counseling of any sort anymore.  Furthermore anybody every tried to explain this shit to a shrink?  Maybe one that specialized in cult-recovery could understand...  I don't know.  What I do know is that other survivors understand, and they actually believe me (because they have seen these things with their own eyes).  Sure you might get the occasional troll who comes on and says "oh get over it, it wasn't that bad"... but by and large, they get royally blasted to pieces on Fornits.  What is needed, in my opinion, is not counseling, but rather a support group with a very strict set of guidelines (to avoid a re-creation of raps)...

That being said.  I feel better merely by posting on Fornits and hearing from others who have had similar experiences.

Antigen:

--- Quote from: ""psy"" ---If you wanted to succeed in program, you had to pretend... After a while, it wasn't pretend anymore.
--- End quote ---


Old wisdom says that if you tell a lie often enough you start to believe it. This is so much more powerful than most people think. When I was in the program, they called me by my given name, saying my familiar name was a druggie tie. Logically, of course, I knew better.

10 years out, I find some old stuff my dad had kept, including a school art project I had done in like 4th grade. For some reason, that came back to me about my name. I cried when I turned it over. I really half expected to see proof that I was crazy instead of exoneration on the back of the thing.

psy:

--- Quote from: ""Antigen's Ghost"" ---
--- Quote from: ""psy"" ---If you wanted to succeed in program, you had to pretend... After a while, it wasn't pretend anymore.
--- End quote ---

Old wisdom says that if you tell a lie often enough you start to believe it.
--- End quote ---

"Fake it til you make it!"...  Whatever legitimate meaning that phrase might have had program totally bastardized.


--- Quote ---This is so much more powerful than most people think. When I was in the program, they called me by my given name, saying my familiar name was a druggie tie. Logically, of course, I knew better.
--- End quote ---


As was my girlfriend at the time, as were any of my friends.  As was any clothing or objects I was attached to... they wanted to take me "out of my comfort zone" (euphemism for: "make him miserable and take away any tie to identity")  Millions of small, seemingly benign symbolic details add up after a while.  Sometimes I wonder if the staff are smart enough to realize the psychological significance of the elements of program they run.  Perhaps only the "designers" knew (Dederich, Wasserman, et al.)  A good deal of the staff at Benchmark didn't even have high school diplomas ("real world experience" was Jayne's selling point on this)

nimdA:
I thought you had to be an ex-con also to work at Benchmark.

nimdA:

--- Quote from: ""psy"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Oz girl"" ---Perhaps there needs to be a specialist counselling service for those who have come out of this system
--- End quote ---

First off... At least for me, I don't feel that confortable with counseling of any sort anymore.  Furthermore anybody every tried to explain this shit to a shrink?  Maybe one that specialized in cult-recovery could understand...  I don't know.  What I do know is that other survivors understand, and they actually believe me (because they have seen these things with their own eyes).  Sure you might get the occasional troll who comes on and says "oh get over it, it wasn't that bad"... but by and large, they get royally blasted to pieces on Fornits.  What is needed, in my opinion, is not counseling, but rather a support group with a very strict set of guidelines (to avoid a re-creation of raps)...

That being said.  I feel better merely by posting on Fornits and hearing from others who have had similar experiences.
--- End quote ---


Try explaining it to a Korean shrink.

Korean Shrink: In Korea we hit out children all the time. Its good for them.

Me: Errrrr... ummmm...

Korean Shrink: You need pills?

Me: Sure I'll take another handful of the purple ones again.

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