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Troll Control:
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--- Quote --- What gives creedence to the claim that he is alive from the people who make it.
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They are big fans of Elvis, they don’t really believe it themselves, but they find it fun to keep him alive in their minds. People know this so they capitalize on it by dressing up like him and getting paid to entertain others.
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Just like you and Aspen. You're an Aspen wannabe!
Deborah:
--- Quote from: ""TheWho"" ---Credibility of the poster does come into play. I think everyone that comes on here knows each has a position. I try to bring balance to the dialog by pointing out the pieces that are left out.
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You haven't brought anything relevant to this discussion, except to quote an anonymous poster claiming to be an ex staff. Could just as well be someone in the PR dept at Aspen, sitting right next to you.
--- Quote ---What you typically see here is the dirty laundry, mistakes that are made which should be brought out.
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Reality check. Notice where you are. Is this ST, or any other program forum? No, it's a survivor forum. In actuality, Fornits offers a different perspective, and fills in the missing pieces, so parents can see the entire picture. There's plenty of industry propoganda on the internet from discrete misrepresentation to outright lies. This is one of a few places where you'll find the dirty laundry that they are not required to divulge to prospective clients.
--- Quote ---LSE Counselor gave one perspective and brought to the table what he knew and others piped in with comments like:
“Ian August even passed Skyline Journey's sophisticated field test for flushin out fakers. Raise their arm and drop it in/near their face. If they flench, they're fakin. He was left to bake in the sun and shortly thereafter died, while the imbecile in charge of his well-being hid behind a bush waiting to catch Ian in the act.
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This is a good example of why your idiotic attempts to derail threads gets split. You take things out of context, misquote people, throw in ignorant and irrelavent analogies and information- to distract from the discussion.
I was responding to your question, not the alleged LSE staff:
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But if the child dies along the way why blame the counselors or EMTs?
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And my response was appropriate response for the question YOU asked:
Depends on the circumstances m'dear. And in most cases time was lost due to the so-called counselors letting the kid sit and die because they erroneously assumed s/he was faking. Ian August even passed Skyline Journey's sophisticated field test for flushin out fakers. Raise their arm and drop it in/near their face. If they flench, they're fakin. He was left to bake in the sun and shortly thereafter died, while the imbecile in charge of his well-being hid behind a bush waiting to catch Ian in the act.
Yeh, these are the type idiots I'd want my kid in the blazing/freezing desert with. I put more trust in "Ozzy". He doesn't have an agenda and most reasonably intellegent people know how to dial 911, even when they're stoned.
http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.ph ... c&start=30
Staff should err on the side of caution. And waiting around to flush them out, takes valuable time that could've saved thier lives.
--- Quote ---I didn’t see a credible source or a link to back this up, either. Is this fact? Someone’s opinion? Sarcasm?
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Fact. You can read about the field test and the sadistic and neglectful treatment of Ian here:
http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.ph ... 136#235136
--- Quote ---When LSE Counselor gave his account he was meet with:
“Talk more about what you don't like about Aspen. That might be useful.”
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And, how is that not valid? Why wouldn't that be part of the big picture?
I'd still like to hear what s/he didn't like about Aspen, and why s/he left, if s/he is who s/he says s/he is.
--- Quote ---Because some people here on fornits don’t want to hear the whole truth, just the small parts that help them to justify painting the entire industry as evil.
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You sh0uld just be thankful that you and other industry advocates are allowed on this site. Always bitching because you can't control everything. Get over it. This ain't program.
Troll Control:
"Last Word Larry" (The Who) just HAS to get the last word in. This is his trolling style. If he had his way, every topic on the board would end with his post. Typical control freak behavior. This is why every thread he gets involved in becomes a giant waste of space and time...
TheWho:
--- Quote --- Fact. You can read about the field test and the sadistic and neglectful treatment of Ian here:
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I traced it back and it is based on interviews of anonymous people or “Guests” as we call them here. Like you said they could be sitting right next to you, we don’t know. LSE Counselor is just as credible.
--- Quote --- You sh0uld just be thankful that you and other industry advocates are allowed on this site. Always bitching because you can't control everything. Get over it. This ain't program.
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So if you had your way people would have to go thru a special screening and training to be able to post here? Maybe a 2 day seminar to weed out the malcontents? I didn’t see any complaints, just answering a question posed to me. Never asked for any control just pointing out my position and function is here. If you don’t want people disagreeing with you why don’t you start a forum like TSW. Then you can delete the posts you don’t like and keep your own point of view at the forefront.
Troll Control:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---"Last Word Larry" (The Who) just HAS to get the last word in. This is his trolling style. If he had his way, every topic on the board would end with his post. Typical control freak behavior. This is why every thread he gets involved in becomes a giant waste of space and time...
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i told ya so! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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