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Lone Star Expeditions
Anonymous:
There was an investigation for 2 years. Got confessions too. Anybody want to argue this? Aspen settled on this one for fear of media attention. Only one person remained at Lonestar after Matt died. What does that tell you? Yes, a settlement. Mother agreed to a settlement so she could speak out against these places and not be gagged for years while Aspen appealed. The settlement was a huge record too because of all the "facts" that were found and the negligence. Money never replaces a child, but it sure hits these corporations where it counts and gets them to make a few changes. It also lets Matt's mother speak out for all the kids that don't make it, commit suicide, live with all the negative brain washing for the rest of their lives, and all the stink that goes with it. She is not sitting back on some yacht giving orders to butlers. She is fighting back for those who can't. Thank God for those of you who seem to come out of the experience physically OK. But your emotional well being is questioned. As a young teenager, you will almost agree to anything to get out of one of those places. If you admit to yourself honestly, you will confirm this is the truth. Kids in these places haven't gotten "bad enough" yet, but parents have lost control and have only a hope that these places will help thier kids.
Anonymous:
Hey my name is james,
I am 17 years old now. I was 16 when I attended Lonestar. I think parents should take their own responsibility for alot of their child's problems. I learned alot of things at lonestar but i would not recommend it. The therapists they use are cheap and worthless, I actually lied and manipulated my therapists into getting out of lonestar. (keep in mind by the time i got to lonestar i was an expert on therapists having been going to several different therapists for years.) The truth is i was solving my own problems before i went to lonestar my parents were to stupid to realize that. I even passed my initial drug test upon entering. Of the other teens that were in my group some had alot bigger problems than me, there were a few gang members and "crazy type kids" who would snap and have to take several doses of Klonopin to calm down. I will admit the isolation and guides helped me realize the impact i had made on my family and friends. I am now a recovering drug addict who has been clean for 1 year and 5 months. I dont know what to tell you to do with your child but all I know is the book they make you read is pretty good for communication with your child and building trust. i cannot remeber the name sorry. Anyways i was using alot of acid and Ecstasy and selling pot before lonestar. If your child is just smoking marijuana or something i wouldn't freak out to much just talk to them about the way it makes you feel/ worry. try and build a good relationship with them and save your self the buckets of money you will spend on all this therapeutic shit. hope i helped
Anonymous:
i went to lonestar expeditions when i was 17yrs and it was an experience i wish i could do again, i knew matt he came 4 days before i left, and as far as the whole things about the staff and it being there fault, if you dont know the area and how the situation is, and the potential fatigue you can get, than dont assume the staff didn't do everything possible, even though he wasnt joking and was really having problems, most of the time you can be 10 to 15 miles away from base camp, in a remote area so having emergency medical staff there may take a few minutes. it is a good program and i would advise anyone who is interested for there kid with drug or family problems to go there, when the counselors say that you need to be well hydrated sometimes the campers will disregard that and not do as told, so in other words follow what the leaders tell ya and you will be alright. yes it is hard and tiring but it was prolly the best experience i have ever had.
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: "john David reuben" ---i went to lonestar expeditions when i was 17yrs and it was an experience i wish i could do again, i knew matt he came 4 days before i left, and as far as the whole things about the staff and it being there fault, if you dont know the area and how the situation is, and the potential fatigue you can get, than dont assume the staff didn't do everything possible, even though he wasnt joking and was really having problems, most of the time you can be 10 to 15 miles away from base camp, in a remote area so having emergency medical staff there may take a few minutes. it is a good program and i would advise anyone who is interested for there kid with drug or family problems to go there, when the counselors say that you need to be well hydrated sometimes the campers will disregard that and not do as told, so in other words follow what the leaders tell ya and you will be alright. yes it is hard and tiring but it was prolly the best experience i have ever had.
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--- Quote from: "john David reuben" --- went to lonestar expeditions when i was 17yrs and it was an experience i wish i could do again, i knew matt he came 4 days before i left, and as far as the whole things about the staff and it being there fault, if you dont know the area and how the situation is, and the potential fatigue you can get, than dont assume the staff didn't do everything possible, even though he wasnt joking and was really having problems, most of the time you can be 10 to 15 miles away from base camp, in a remote area so having emergency medical staff there may take a few minutes. it is a good program and i would advise anyone who is interested for there kid with drug or family problems to go there, when the counselors say that you need to be well hydrated sometimes the campers will disregard that and not do as told, so in other words follow what the leaders tell ya and you will be alright. yes it is hard and tiring but it was prolly the best experience i have ever had.
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Disgusting. ^^John David Reuben pretending to be a lone star victim to publicly shield Aspen Education Group Cult from responsibility for the death of the kid they killed. Well, considering he betrayed his own kid, Michael to the cult Academy at Swift River (who later killed himself), what can you expect? Unlike John, this kids mother loved her kid. Wanna show some respect to this dead child by taking your shilling to another thread?
There are confessions and a 'record' settlement. Maybe we can get a copy of the suit and related materials up on fornits, guest?
"There was an investigation for 2 years. Got confessions too. Anybody want to argue this? Aspen settled on this one for fear of media attention. Only one person remained at Lonestar after Matt died. What does that tell you? Yes, a settlement. Mother agreed to a settlement so she could speak out against these places and not be gagged for years while Aspen appealed. The settlement was a huge record too because of all the "facts" that were found and the negligence. Money never replaces a child, but it sure hits these corporations where it counts and gets them to make a few changes. It also lets Matt's mother speak out for all the kids that don't make it, commit suicide, live with all the negative brain washing for the rest of their lives, and all the stink that goes with it. She is not sitting back on some yacht giving orders to butlers. She is fighting back for those who can't."
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