The current "My teen wont forgive me" thread on ST

[White Cracker Man]

Your absolutely right but she has not gotten one for the 14- year old and you can't treat ADHD or whatever unless it is diagnosed. I believe she was venting frustration at the cop because she feels there is a chance their behavior would improve with the proper diagnosis. She got an asessment for the 13-year old but the GP refuses to acknowledge ADHD or anything. I think that assessment goes out the window. But I agree fully that having a mental illness does not give you an excuse to be an asshole or worse.Just think that any illness should be treated to the best of ability.

[Bob]

Exhausted, if you decide to send any of your children into placement, please use an escort service. The decision to send a child away is tough enough without taking them yourself.

[Anonymous]

Lets see now ... if memory is right ...

British single mom with four kids, one girl OK, one boy clearly a chronic problem for her and to himself (it would seem) who won't even stay thrown out of the house, one 14 y.o. boy who seems bent on copying the older brother, one somewhat younger (12 or 13, depending) boy showing clear tendecies toward brothers' decisions.  In all, as she views it, evident non-success with 3 of 4.

Also, no help from authorities, social services, police etc, whose best advice is don't bother us.  Family doctor says 14 y.o. should have seen a shrink years ago, but has for years refused to refer him.

Toss in alleged total absence of private doctors - medical or psychiatric, no local programs to address issues (not talking send 'em away programs either).  Suggestion made elsewhere to move was agreed almost immediately with viewing of potential new home (farm?) imminent [talk about moving quickly!!!].  So I guess money is there to move, but not to pay a private doc - when she got the energy to find one.  Or was it the private doc couldn't make proper referrals.

So, now she wants help - a magic solution to overcome years of socially troubling behavior by her kids.  However, that solution apparently can't involve them living apart from her.

1 of 4 is not a great track record, and there is no magic bullet to turn it around -- just as there is no magic program.  Conclusion has to be she's looking for an ear and sympathy, but won't let go.  I doubt she really could let one of her kids go to any residential program - no matter how wonderful -- or even a "regular" boarding school.  

At a minimum, she needs the therapy, not the kids, though given their suffering including them in therapeutic services should help them and is the only hope for anything like "family".

[Amish Mom]

Exhausted, would you consider a move to Amish Country? We have plenty of farms.

[Sue Your Ass Off Scheff]

Exhausted, I am Susan Scheff, founder of Pure. I want to let you know     that I take every possible  recourse to ensure all programs I refer too       are safe and appropiate. I take my job very seriously, I was once a child myself. I have a daughter also. There is no way I could send a child somewhere knowing it is not safe or appropiate. So, If you come to the ever so painful conclusion that one or more of your children need treatment away from your home, I want you to choose PURE to help you in the decision making process.I know you have pure intentions for your children. And I know there is no better place to go than PURE to get PURE treatment.

[psy]

Exhausted, would you consider a move to Amish Country? We have plenty of farms.

Well at least you know they would be well treated.  This isn't a bad idea actually if you can afford it.  It would be a big decision though, and an international move.  At least you know the kids in the neighborhood won't be the source of bad influence.

btw:  What the heck is an Amish mom doing posting on fornits anyway?  I thought the Amish didn't have computers.  Or maybe i'm confusing you guys with the Quakers.  No offense meant.  I actually respect the both of your groups far more than many other forms of organized religion.

[Deborah]

You're so disciplined Gookie.

[Nihilanthic]

:-? Are you for real?

Are you?

He's obviously a troll. His program name is an amalgam of various geography and touchy-feely (or, orwellian... you read much? You ARE in the UK...) and nobody would call themself Dr. SHITHEAD.

No offence but if you're duped that easily...  

[psy]

they can't learn not to be ADHD anymore than another person can learn not to be blind.

Ok.  ADHD basically means "Wacky, bounces off walls, can't concentrate on only one thing at one time".  ADHD people, on the other hand, can concentrate on lots of things at one time.  They make great airline pilots (really).  For me, medication does help.

ADHD is not an excuse, nor is it probably the cause, of your kid's acting out.  It may be a secondary cause (if they find it hard in school(either too boring, too rigid, or requiring too much focus), they may not like it, and turn to things that do entertain them.

I think in this case your kids problems stem from your 19 year old, his example, and alcohol.  I have ADHD, and i don't do the things your kid does.  Yes they are probably messed up in the head in other ways but only a shrink can really make that assessment.  Maybe they are bipolar.  Keep bothering the GP until he gives you that reference.

PS: doctor shithead was attempting to parody a wwasp rep offering a discount for "casa by the sea".

[Anonymous]

I love how your "supportive" friends on ST ridicule you for trying to help your kids by looking elsewhere for information.  They're great people.

BTW, did you know that "WillieNelson" is actually "KarenInDallas" (and other names) on this board?  Do a search here for "Karen" and you'll see what an absolutly sick, nasty individual she is.  

As bad as Karen is, "Anne from Minnesota" might be worse.  Here she's called "Ottawa5" and she is truly, deeply demented despite what she tries to convey on ST.  Look her up here so you can see who you're dealing with.  

Those two women need a program for narcissistic control freaks and know-it-alls, preferably one that involves dog cages and a lot of humiliation!

I wouldn't take advice from either one of these deeply disturbed women...

I'm curious about the Willie--Karen equality. Did Karen move "way up north" to Tennessee? How do you know they are the same poster?

[Troll Control]

I love how your "supportive" friends on ST ridicule you for trying to help your kids by looking elsewhere for information.  They're great people.

BTW, did you know that "WillieNelson" is actually "KarenInDallas" (and other names) on this board?  Do a search here for "Karen" and you'll see what an absolutly sick, nasty individual she is.  

As bad as Karen is, "Anne from Minnesota" might be worse.  Here she's called "Ottawa5" and she is truly, deeply demented despite what she tries to convey on ST.  Look her up here so you can see who you're dealing with.  

Those two women need a program for narcissistic control freaks and know-it-alls, preferably one that involves dog cages and a lot of humiliation!

I wouldn't take advice from either one of these deeply disturbed women...

I'm curious about the Willie--Karen equality. Did Karen move "way up north" to Tennessee? How do you know they are the same poster?

Yes, Karen moved to Nashville to work for a timber company.  She posted that she was moving there on other forums and has admitted it many times since she's been busted posing as someone else.

Yeah, ol' Karen tries to be sneaky, but she has so many enemies (who she thinks are friends) that sell her out for nothing every time she pulls some crap.  

So, yeah, WillieNelson is KarenInDallas, Hstreet, RandomWalk, MomofWildChild, etc.  She's just a run-of-the-mill retarded child-hating programmie mom who thinks she knows everything and what's best for everyone's life despite the fact that her own life and experiences raising children have been an unmitigated disaster.

[psy]

I love how your "supportive" friends on ST ridicule you for trying to help your kids by looking elsewhere for information.  They're great people.

BTW, did you know that "WillieNelson" is actually "KarenInDallas" (and other names) on this board?  Do a search here for "Karen" and you'll see what an absolutly sick, nasty individual she is.  

As bad as Karen is, "Anne from Minnesota" might be worse.  Here she's called "Ottawa5" and she is truly, deeply demented despite what she tries to convey on ST.  Look her up here so you can see who you're dealing with.  

Those two women need a program for narcissistic control freaks and know-it-alls, preferably one that involves dog cages and a lot of humiliation!

I wouldn't take advice from either one of these deeply disturbed women...

I'm curious about the Willie--Karen equality. Did Karen move "way up north" to Tennessee? How do you know they are the same poster?

Yes, Karen moved to Nashville to work for a timber company.  She posted that she was moving there on other forums and has admitted it many times since she's been busted posing as someone else.

Yeah, ol' Karen tries to be sneaky, but she has so many enemies (who she thinks are friends) that sell her out for nothing every time she pulls some crap.  

So, yeah, WillieNelson is KarenInDallas, Hstreet, RandomWalk, MomofWildChild, etc.  She's just a run-of-the-mill retarded child-hating programmie mom who thinks she knows everything and what's best for everyone's life despite the fact that her own life and experiences raising children have been an unmitigated disaster.

And if you look up her IP addresses she posts from (on ST) using an ip locator, most of her posts come from Tennesee, though she does travel a lot.

She has also admitted many times on ST to posting on Fornits.  She's not very well liked here, or anywhere else really.  Every time she gets busted she changes her identity.  She goes through em pretty quick.

oh.  And "unmitigated disaster" is a little mild.

[Anne Bonney]

I think it's pretty funny that she uses Willie Nelson as a username.   He's actually one of my favorite activists for the legalization of marijuana.

http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=4119

[psy]

I think it's pretty funny that she uses Willie Nelson as a username.   He's actually one of my favorite activists for the legalization of marijuana.

http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=4119

Yeah it's a real riot.  I bet the real Willie Nelson would just be uber-proud having her use his name, considering what she, and her pet industry does to kids in the name of the almighty drug war.

[Anne Bonney]

I bet he would too, but I still think it's funny that someone who is all over the place trying to spead the word about how bad drugs are and how much these "damn kids" need rehab uses the screen name of one of the most notorious stoners around.

Meh, maybe it's just me.