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« Reply #30 on: November 01, 2006, 03:52:30 PM »
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I was at that assembly.  Charles Cates did not tell the students not to tell their parents.  He told them not to tell their parents a faulty version of the story.  That was the whole point of making the announcement.  He wanted to dispell rumors before everyone got on the phone to tell their parents "locals are coming onto campus raping girls".  You may not like Charles Cates, but he is not stupid.  He is not going to tell the student body not to tell their parents.


No, trust me: Charles Cates is very stupid.  I don't normally make a practice of insulting people so directly, but that man is a fool.  He sent out a letter to the parents telling them about the lawsuit before the word really got out to everyone.  Well, Charles speeded that process right up, now didn't he?  That is one example out of many, many, many more, but if you ask any of the parents who have had dealings with him, he is not only stupid, but incompetent as well.  I mean, for Christ's sake, he mispronounced Samara's name in Assembly every week even though she had already been there like two years.  If that doesn't show a great deal of stupidity (or maybe just senility), I just don't know what does.
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« Reply #31 on: November 01, 2006, 05:17:12 PM »
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No, trust me: Charles Cates is very stupid.  I don't normally make a practice of insulting people so directly, but that man is a fool.  He sent out a letter to the parents telling them about the lawsuit before the word really got out to everyone.  Well, Charles speeded that process right up, now didn't he?  That is one example out of many, many, many more, but if you ask any of the parents who have had dealings with him, he is not only stupid, but incompetent as well.  I mean, for Christ's sake, he mispronounced Samara's name in Assembly every week even though she had already been there like two years.  If that doesn't show a great deal of stupidity (or maybe just senility), I just don't know what does.


You're talking about two different things at once. That has nothing to do with the two girls running off into the woods, which he did insist that we not tell our parents.
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« Reply #32 on: November 01, 2006, 07:04:46 PM »
the girl who "used" the stick, was in my pg. She went home after being withdrawn before she could be dismissed. I know the story. Not shit will come it.
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« Reply #33 on: November 01, 2006, 07:12:10 PM »
Was she sent on an intervention?
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« Reply #34 on: November 10, 2006, 10:28:49 AM »
No, she was sent to the Shalet. Where basically she's no longer part of the program and they keep her in a cabin out by the woods until they knew what to do with her.
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« Reply #35 on: November 10, 2006, 10:47:04 AM »
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No, she was sent to the Shalet. Where basically she's no longer part of the program and they keep her in a cabin out by the woods until they knew what to do with her.


Correct.  If you are sent to the Chalet it typically means you are no longer a true part of the program.  You are at the Chalet because you are not safe to be around the other students and HLA is trying to get you moved to a different location. If this girl was in the Chalet it is a bit misleading to say that she was still at the school for a month after the incident, because she was not really with the rest of the kids.  Also, HLA does not like to have kids at the Chalet for an extended period of time.  What is going on behind the scenes is HLA pushing the parents to find another placement as soon as possible.  It cost money for HLA to assign extra staff to watch a single student and HLA does not want to do that.
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« Reply #36 on: November 10, 2006, 11:14:16 AM »
So youre saying they locked this girl up in a cabin for an entire month? Is that legal?
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« Reply #37 on: November 10, 2006, 12:18:28 PM »
sorta but not really...she was on a serious "staff escort", they would have her taken work for school and would bring her up for some meals before or after the other students ate, others would be take to her...she would be allowed dorm time when no one else was there...they kept watch on her 24/7 and were badgering the mom to get her to a different place...the mom kept hemming and hawing...i am not sure how they actually got her off campus but she was a scary m/f!!  a true sociopath...she had no remorse for what she did...and she did mess that other girl up...so much so that she had to be sedated to have a pelvic exam done at the hospital...
this isn't the only child this was done to...others would be sent to ridge creek, but not for the program, to finish out their high school requirements and then dismissed...this way they got to finish their schooling but were not around other students due to their going against the major 3 (sex, drugs or violence) or just that they had already gone to rci 4 or 5 times and it didn't help but they were so close to graduating that the school let them stay ($$) to finish their degree...they didn't do anything but eat sleep and do their school work...and sometimes they would scrub rocks with a toothbrush!
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« Reply #38 on: November 10, 2006, 12:50:35 PM »
If they are keeping them there because the are "so close to graduation" then it is not about the $$.  Parents pay the last three months of the program in advance.  In actuallity it would be more profitable for them to just kick those kids out.
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« Reply #39 on: November 10, 2006, 01:03:47 PM »
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If they are keeping them there because the are "so close to graduation" then it is not about the $$.  Parents pay the last three months of the program in advance.  In actuallity it would be more profitable for them to just kick those kids out.


They don't keep you at ridge creek because you are close to graduating the program at HLA. If you're dismissed from HLA and you're sent to ridge creek, that's because your parents decide to send you there. There was only one circumstance that I'm aware of when a student was dismissed from HLA but kept at ridge creek for the soul purpose of completing high school and that was because he was eighteen and all his parents wanted was for him to get all of his credits so that they could finally be done with him and not have to worry about him anymore. Once he was to have finished high school at ridge creek, his parents were going to cease communication with him completely.
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« Reply #40 on: November 10, 2006, 01:14:38 PM »
not true...i can think of 3 students that have been on the "rci grad" program...
AND if they were to pull their kids they forfeit the "deposit" if they are dismissed they have to pay it back...
all of the kids on that program were 18--and signed themselves in
don't fool yourself...
IT IS ALL AND ALWAYS ABOUT THE $$$'S
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« Reply #41 on: November 10, 2006, 01:24:13 PM »
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If they are keeping them there because the are "so close to graduation" then it is not about the $$.  Parents pay the last three months of the program in advance.  In actuallity it would be more profitable for them to just kick those kids out.


There are many kids on MySpace who report being booted a month or two before graduation. Might they have been on scholarship and being booted, their parents had to repay that scholarship money?
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« Reply #42 on: November 10, 2006, 01:34:05 PM »
i hear tell that if they are on scholarship and they withdraw they have to pay it back!!!
gives a whole new meaning to "generosity", eh??
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« Reply #43 on: November 10, 2006, 01:42:50 PM »
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i hear tell that if they are on scholarship and they withdraw they have to pay it back!!!
gives a whole new meaning to "generosity", eh??


This is true.  It is also written in the contract before they accept the scholarship.  One the one hand that sounds pretty harsh, on the other hand- don't accept the scholarship if you can't live up to the contract you sign.  If don't feel HLA lived up to their end of the bargain, then sue them.
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« Reply #44 on: November 10, 2006, 05:10:30 PM »
So what happens when HLA decides to boot the kid? Does the school return the prepaid tuition?
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