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« Reply #60 on: June 19, 2006, 12:30:00 AM »
I could not get the link to play but i did read a 4 page extract from the book that this pair put out. It hardly improved my view of the BTS ideology particularly WWASPS. This woman was dreadful!
The mother described how heartbreaking it was for her when her kid was a missing person yet the first thing she did was go to an important business meeting. Surely even a busy exec would put the kids welfare first. She was also sooo compassionate toward homeless youngsters NOT! "they cant afford food but they can afford purple hair dye"

Then there was her delightfully non racist attitude to the french and to those scruffy backpackers @ the youth hostel. Because the kind of people who travel but do so on the cheap are obviously the devil incarnate!!!
As to the cops, I mean could they not see she was like really rich!! Does this not mean she gets priority over the seething masses!!!!

Lets not forget the fact that when Mia's uncle could not get her friend to come home mom was pretty blase about the other set of parents suffering. I guess if your kid will insist on dressing like a goth and being into some kind of wierd wikka cult, well it must serve you right!!! i mean according to mom none of the other girls @ school liked goth girl anyway so who cares if she ends up a homeless drug addict! What a comassionate mentality to raise a kid with!!!!I can kind of see why mia preferred the van full of Nazis to mom!!!
I am sure Mia gets saved in the end & everyone lives happily ever after but what is rediculous is that the mother obviously did not see a single problem with her mode of thinking.
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« Reply #61 on: June 19, 2006, 01:30:00 AM »
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On 2006-06-18 21:30:00, Pls help wrote:

"I could not get the link to play but i did read a 4 page extract from the book that this pair put out. It hardly improved my view of the BTS ideology particularly WWASPS. This woman was dreadful!

The mother described how heartbreaking it was for her when her kid was a missing person yet the first thing she did was go to an important business meeting. Surely even a busy exec would put the kids welfare first. She was also sooo compassionate toward homeless youngsters NOT! "they cant afford food but they can afford purple hair dye"



Then there was her delightfully non racist attitude to the french and to those scruffy backpackers @ the youth hostel. Because the kind of people who travel but do so on the cheap are obviously the devil incarnate!!!

As to the cops, I mean could they not see she was like really rich!! Does this not mean she gets priority over the seething masses!!!!



Lets not forget the fact that when Mia's uncle could not get her friend to come home mom was pretty blase about the other set of parents suffering. I guess if your kid will insist on dressing like a goth and being into some kind of wierd wikka cult, well it must serve you right!!! i mean according to mom none of the other girls @ school liked goth girl anyway so who cares if she ends up a homeless drug addict! What a comassionate mentality to raise a kid with!!!!I can kind of see why mia preferred the van full of Nazis to mom!!!

I am sure Mia gets saved in the end & everyone lives happily ever after but what is rediculous is that the mother obviously did not see a single problem with her mode of thinking. "


Yep, sounds like your basic MOMSTER (monster mom).
Sad thing is, most of the WWASPS parents fit this same profile: Self-absorbed, spoiled, overly demanding and controlling.  Unable to tolerate kids who will not (or can not) meet their expectations and demands.  Eventually they write books or open up referral websites.  The cycle continues.
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« Reply #62 on: June 19, 2006, 01:15:00 PM »
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On 2006-06-18 21:30:00, Pls help wrote:

"I could not get the link to play but i did read a 4 page extract from the book that this pair put out. It hardly improved my view of the BTS ideology particularly WWASPS. This woman was dreadful!

The mother described how heartbreaking it was for her when her kid was a missing person yet the first thing she did was go to an important business meeting. Surely even a busy exec would put the kids welfare first. She was also sooo compassionate toward homeless youngsters NOT! "they cant afford food but they can afford purple hair dye"



Then there was her delightfully non racist attitude to the french and to those scruffy backpackers @ the youth hostel. Because the kind of people who travel but do so on the cheap are obviously the devil incarnate!!!

As to the cops, I mean could they not see she was like really rich!! Does this not mean she gets priority over the seething masses!!!!



Lets not forget the fact that when Mia's uncle could not get her friend to come home mom was pretty blase about the other set of parents suffering. I guess if your kid will insist on dressing like a goth and being into some kind of wierd wikka cult, well it must serve you right!!! i mean according to mom none of the other girls @ school liked goth girl anyway so who cares if she ends up a homeless drug addict! What a comassionate mentality to raise a kid with!!!!I can kind of see why mia preferred the van full of Nazis to mom!!!

I am sure Mia gets saved in the end & everyone lives happily ever after but what is rediculous is that the mother obviously did not see a single problem with her mode of thinking. "


Go ahead and read the book; the mom was very honest about her own attitude, and wasn't afraid to demonstrate in the book that her mode of thinking had a great deal to do with the whole situation. In the excerpt, you just got to meet her as she was at that time, warts and all. Later, you get to see the transformation as she recognizes how she has to change.
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« Reply #63 on: June 20, 2006, 05:11:00 AM »
I actually read a lengthy on line interview with just the daughter. I am relieved that she got her life together & it seems she has been able to make a genuine life for herself. But I got the feeling that a lot of what she said, she had really convinced herself of because thinking about it too much (or perhaps discussing it) was just too painful. I noticed that she said it was hard at first to make friends outside of "the programme". I also noted that she mentioned that her counsellor would "confront" her about the issue of childhood sexual abuse then hug her when she cried. One thing that struck me as odd about this was that a place which is supposed to know all about kids, would put a girl with sexual abuse issues apparently alone in a room with a middle aged man who can get her uspet enough to cry and then hug her.
What if that scenario had gone horribly wrong? What if a lonely troubled kid with little experience of non sexual male attention & no parents to turn to for comfort was to mis interpret that and the adult male alone with her were to take advantage? i am not suggesting that this is what occurred but even setting up a situation where this can happen sits extremely uneasily with me!
She also mentioned that she was distraught when the authorities closed Morava. I imagine that a lot of kids would have been. After all they are alone and troubled and in a strange country where they do not speak the language and their parents are a million miles away! Moreover for many kids contact with the family is banned until they can "earn" back their parents love! In this situation even a horrible prison like atmosphere is a security blanket. many kids would not know if they are even welcome back at home, particularly if escorts took them.
I am glad WWASSPS saved mia but I sure as hell can't see why any sane adult would take that gamble with their kid!!!
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« Reply #64 on: June 20, 2006, 09:12:00 AM »
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On 2006-06-20 02:59:00, Three Springs Waygookin wrote:

"WWASP didn't save Mia.



Mia saved Mia.

A man is accepted into a church for what he believes and he is turned out for what he knows.
http://smack.accesscard.org/index/misc/atheist/' target='_new'>Samuel Clemens "Mark Twain", American author and humorist

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Amen! And SCL showed her it was possible.
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« Reply #65 on: June 20, 2006, 11:44:00 PM »
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On 2006-06-20 06:12:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2006-06-20 02:59:00, Three Springs Waygookin wrote:


"WWASP didn't save Mia.





Mia saved Mia.

A man is accepted into a church for what he believes and he is turned out for what he knows.
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 830#202077

 They've got built in answers for every outcome. Say a two kids go to ASR but don't finish. Both have remarkably similar experiences both before and in there. One leaves and becomes successful, one leaves and doesn't. Here's the explanation these places give for each. The one who is successful is so because of what he did learn while at ASR. The one who isn't, it's because he didn't finish. They take credit for successes that they can't possibly prove are a result of their practices and discount any negative outcomes as the client not working hard enough. Kinda like the religious freaks that claim to be able to perform healing miracles and when they don't materialize it's because the poor lamb didn't have enough faith.  
 :roll:
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« Reply #66 on: June 21, 2006, 10:49:00 AM »
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On 2006-06-20 20:44:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2006-06-20 06:12:00, Anonymous wrote:


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On 2006-06-20 02:59:00, Three Springs Waygookin wrote:



"WWASP didn't save Mia.







Mia saved Mia.

A man is accepted into a church for what he believes and he is turned out for what he knows.
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 830#202077



 They've got built in answers for every outcome. Say a two kids go to ASR but don't finish. Both have remarkably similar experiences both before and in there. One leaves and becomes successful, one leaves and doesn't. Here's the explanation these places give for each. The one who is successful is so because of what he did learn while at ASR. The one who isn't, it's because he didn't finish. They take credit for successes that they can't possibly prove are a result of their practices and discount any negative outcomes as the client not working hard enough. Kinda like the religious freaks that claim to be able to perform healing miracles and when they don't materialize it's because the poor lamb didn't have enough faith.  

 :roll: "


All reputable mental health professionals agree that partial treatment has little or no chance of success. And the successful ones? It's possible they're successful in every way except being able to perceive (your) reality, I guess.
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