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nalex18:
--- Quote from: ""Three Springs Waygookin"" ---:lol:
So would you have spoken out about what happened to you when you first graduated from ASR?
Why speak now? From what I am gathering your opinion is less than flattering.
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Well actually, a while back in the big ASR thread that turned out into an all out war, I posted a few times.
I was so confused when I came out I really can't tell you. There were times that I would get really angry about it and others when the "ASR brain wash effect" came out.
I became interested again because I've recently come across people who I went to ASR with. (only one of whom seems to be doing ok)
nalex18:
--- Quote from: ""Three Springs Waygookin"" ---I am glad you feel free to speak out now. Again thank you for that courage.
Now next question...
1) Did they ever take a student that represented a serious danger to themselves and others around them?
2) Was your mail screened?
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They did take kids who had a history of violence. I don't remember anyone getting violent with anyone else... although there was a kid who chased a base camp staff member around with a knife...
There were more kids who were dangers to themselves. I honestly think ASR is very lucky in that no one has succeeded in committing suicide. I can tell you first hand that for someone with major depression ASR could drive you past breaking point easily. It seemed like they pick and chose who they took seriously about being suicidal. I was not taken seriously, and had my roommate not been in the room one day, I may well have taken my life. I do not say that to evoke pity or anything else like that, and I was not using it to "manipulate" ( a favorite ASR term)
2) Yes, I think I answered that previously
nalex18:
--- Quote from: ""Three Springs Waygookin"" ---1) Attempts at suicide were viewed as manipulation?
2) What would happen after an attempted suicide was discovered?
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1) Usually, yes.And they told you that very matter-of-factly.
The same goes for self-mutilation. I understand that SI can be used as manipulation but it does not excuse them brushing it off. They told me that I was using cutting as manipulation...
1)seeing that I had hid it from them for months even though i was body searched several times.
2) and only came forward when my roommate saw when I got out of the shower
I don't think it was. At all. I can honestly say that when I was younger pre-ASR there were times when I did use hurting myself to hurt other people, but I grew out of this pretty quickly and what I did at ASR had nothing to do with getting back at anyone.
2) In one case she was taken to the hospital for stitches and then brought back. I was her escort the next morning when she had to go back into the dorm. I'm pretty sure she was placed on a self-study. (the most severe consequence)
In another a counselor told us about a time he walked in on someone about to hang themselves with a belt. He said [something to the effect of] that he didn't place the kid on a self study because it was obvious he was hurting enough.
nalex18:
--- Quote from: ""Three Springs Waygookin"" ---1) What is self-study?
2) Describe this Escorting more please?
3) Why was a student doing the escorting of a self-harming/suicidal resident and not a staff member?
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A self study was the worst of the three major consequences. (reflection, challenge, self study). You had work projects, all free time was spent at your table, facing the wall. Lots of writing assignments. Loss of all privileges. Standing during all meetings. You most likely had strict bans
Basically I had to take her back to the dorm and be with her while she gathered up her things and changed, etc. I don't remember if she showered or not. I was basically there to make sure she didn't attempt again.
I don't know why they had me do it. I was "trusted" at that point, and honestly... probably a better choice than some of the staff.
MightyAardvark:
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