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Worried Dad:

--- Quote ---On 2006-05-03 15:29:00, Paul Smith wrote:

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--- Quote ---Part of what the counsellor recommened was a book called, "Back In Control."
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Which just so happens to be featured on Lon's site.



"Worried Dad", if you are for real and not yet another programmie troll (pardon our suspicion- we get a lot of them here), think: What else can you do with the money? Have you considered non-residential treatment programs? When did all this start? How much have you talked to your son about it? Did you tell him that things have gotten so bad, you're thinking about sending him away?



The other posters were right- a public jail beats a private TBS any day of the week.
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Yes I've noticed what seemed to be troll posts myself.

I had no clue that book was featured there.  It was recommended to me by a therapist.  No he didn't recommend sending my son to one of these schools.  The book is still good in my opinion.  Don't throw the baby out with the bad.

Yes I'm real.  

Yes I can understand anger towards parents.  In my case I'm particularly tired of being blamed for my child's problems though.  If he's having problems, it's not necessarily the parents fault for it.  The therapists that my son and I have seen all have said it's not my fault.  My son even told one that he's not blaming me for his problems.  The therapist probably shouldn't have told me that, but it did make me feel better.

Okay I suppose there's more people that want to flame me so get it out of your systems.  I'll try to keep my mouth shut. lol

Oh and if someone has a resource of where I can find something that would help my son other than one of these WWASP programs I'd be grateful.  Again, I'm not planning to send my son to a WWASP now, thanks. lol

CCM girl 1989:

--- Quote ---On 2006-05-03 15:26:00, Worried Dad wrote:

"Okay, I've said it before though perhaps not strongly enough, I'm not sending my son there.  You're answers other than one person here, have been great, thanks."

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How funny! I guess I hit a nerve? Your telling me that there is no way you can sweet talk that judge into giving him another opportunity for success under your supervision? Sounds to me like you are giving up way too easily. Maybe you want your child to just go away, so you can feel like you can tell your family and friends it wasn't my choice, it was the courts! Boo-hoo!

Whatever, I guess the judge might be seeing something that we may not. Maybe it's apparent to them that you are not a good parent, and never will be. Maybe they feel like they are doing your son a favor by sending him away from you?

I'm not this angry person you make me out to be! I just think people like you are weak, and make a bunch of excuses of why it's not your fault.

I'm 99.99999% sure it is you who needs the therapy. I am not here on Fornits asking for advice on what to do with my life, or my relationships.

I've shared my experiences, and made a few friends. I offer outside the box thinking for those parents open to hearing it.

Sorry if I offended, or struck a nerve. But, I will not be losing sleep over it.

Troll Control:

--- Quote ---Yes I can understand anger towards parents. In my case I'm particularly tired of being blamed for my child's problems though. If he's having problems, it's not necessarily the parents fault for it. The therapists that my son and I have seen all have said it's not my fault. My son even told one that he's not blaming me for his problems. The therapist probably shouldn't have told me that, but it did make me feel better.

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Some good parents have problems with their kids too.  It happens.

Whether or not that's the case with you is irrelevent though.  It's not about you right now.  Just try to gain some perspective from people who legitimately, no matter how they express it, hold your child in the highest regard and would do literally almost anything to help him if they could.  This is where grownups are supposed to be able to examine the situation critically and make good decisions.  Don't let your own feelings get in the way of your best judgement.

Honestly, to me, you seem like a pretty measured guy.  I really see no reason why you shouldn't be able to get all the facts on the table before you act.  I think you'll probably do alright.

Troll Control:

--- Quote ---I've shared my experiences, and made a few friends. I offer outside the box thinking for those parents open to hearing it.

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I must say that this is true.  You do give creative and thoughtful advice.

Now be nice! :wink:

Anonymous:
CCM, *STFU*. This gentleman is acting real enough and there's no sense in treating him like yet another hopeless programmie parent. He obviously gives a damn. Let's focus on saving the kid instead of pissing the dad off, shall we?

I say again: Non-residential treatment. You might want to start here: http://www.colorado.edu/cspv/blueprints ... rview.html

Also, why don't you bring him to this board, WD? Get him to put in writing what the hell is going on.

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