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« on: March 20, 2006, 01:19:00 AM »
Come Back : A Mother and Daughter's Journey Through Hell and Back

By Claire and Mia Fontaine
(To Be Released April 4, 2006)

From Publishers Weekly

A nightmarish saga of a teenage runaway in L.A. ends triumphantly thanks to love and support from her screenwriter mom and stepdad. At 15, Mia gets involved in a dangerous drug and Wicca scene, stunning her successful, controlling mother, Claire, and stepfather, Paul. But the signs were in place earlier, after Mia's history of being sexually abused by her biological father, a violent, vindictive drug user whom Claire left with difficulty. Sent to Indiana to live with Claire's sister, Mia starts using cocaine heavily and even gets arrested. When the destructive behavior (including self-mutilation) accelerates, Claire and Paul send Mia to the unlikely Morava Academy, in the Czech Republic, a kind of Spartan military institution where 50 teens are rigorously monitored and reprogrammed. Meanwhile, back in L.A., the parents undergo an intensive group therapy called Discovery to learn to shed guilt for their daughter's behavior, and also forgive her. Oddly, Morava is soon shut down after allegations of staff abuse, but Mia goes through a brilliant turnaround at Spring Creek Lodge in Montana. Mia's desperate diary entries appear between Claire's lively, angry, sarcastic narrative, allowing mother and daughter to maintain a heart-wrenching, honest dialogue. (Mar.)
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Don't you just just love these reviews ... "Oddly .. Morava is soon shut down after allegations of staff abuse ..."

So what does the parent do? Send her kid to another WWASPS program called Spring Creek Lodge?

Sheesh, that just makes no sense ... but then again, this does appear to be the rule rather than the exception following the closure of other WWASPS programs alleged to be abusive like Dundee Ranch and Casa By The Sea.
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« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2006, 11:24:00 AM »
sounds like a great book, finally some honesty is being published, everything else is just lies! Spring creek saves lives! And no, I don't work for the program!
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« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2006, 11:27:00 AM »
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On 2006-03-20 08:24:00, Anonymous wrote:

"sounds like a great book, finally some honesty is being published, everything else is just lies! Spring creek saves lives! And no, I don't work for the program!"


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« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2006, 12:03:00 PM »
Is this the same program where kids were put into isolation called THE HOBBIT?
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« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2006, 12:11:00 PM »
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On 2006-03-20 09:03:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Is this the same program where kids were put into isolation called THE HOBBIT?



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Yes
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« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2006, 12:12:00 PM »
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On 2006-03-20 08:24:00, Anonymous wrote:

"sounds like a great book, finally some honesty is being published, everything else is just lies! Spring creek saves lives! And no, I don't work for the program!"


When were you there? Maybe we were in the same family... or are you a program parent? I know about 500 kids who will argue with you about saving lives, and can only find about 12 who will agree with you. Why do you think that is? Did SCL save your life?
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« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2006, 11:46:00 PM »
yes scl did save my life i was there from 1999-2000
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« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2006, 08:54:00 AM »
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"yes scl did save my life i was there from 1999-2000"


I was there in 2000-2001 my name is James I was in Excel family, what family were you in? How did SCL save your life exactly?
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« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2006, 09:00:00 AM »
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On 2006-03-20 08:24:00, Anonymous wrote:

"sounds like a great book, finally some honesty is being published, everything else is just lies! Spring creek saves lives! And no, I don't work for the program!"


 :lol:  :lol: I love how you add 'i dont work for the program' really makes a nice touch. Say hi to Cameron for me.
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« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2006, 12:16:00 AM »
Time to start writing reviews ... suggesting an alternative such as HELP AT ANY COST ... if parents want a BALANCED opinion of the troubled teen industry.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/006079 ... e&n=283155
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« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2006, 12:17:00 AM »
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« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2006, 11:50:00 PM »
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On 2006-04-22 21:16:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Time to start writing reviews ... suggesting an alternative such as HELP AT ANY COST ... if parents want a BALANCED opinion of the troubled teen industry.



http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/006079 ... e&n=283155"


Balanced? Szalavitz has never been to a WWASPS school, and she is admittedly part of a group whose sole purpose is to shut down WWASPS. In the other book, this mom and her daughter relate the true story of their time at two of them. Have you even read it?
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« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2006, 11:57:00 PM »
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 and she is admittedly part of a group whose sole purpose is to shut down WWASPS.

Excuse me?  Where did you get that information?

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In the other book, this mom and her daughter relate the true story of their time at two of them


Oh, I see.  It's OK to take personal stories at face value as long as it supports your position?  What about all the personal stories here and on the numerous other websites that allow free, uncensored opinions?  

Have you read Maia's book?  More importantly, did you read the footnotes and see the amount of research that went into it?  Hell, even her detractors say the book is 'meticulously researched'.  Oh, wait......that's right.  You guys prefer 'surveys' over actual clinical research and studies.  I forgot, silly me. :roll:
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« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2006, 02:48:00 AM »
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Balanced? Szalavitz has never been to a WWASPS school, and she is admittedly part of a group whose sole purpose is to shut down WWASPS. In the other book, this mom and her daughter relate the true story of their time at two of them. Have you even read it?


What is ironic is the WWASPIES dismiss the abuse 'allegations' because they say until the abuse is proved (as if some kid can sneak a digital camera in his ass or something to document the abuse) that all the lawsuits, thousands of kids speaking out should all be ignored. But if ONE mother and ONE daughter write a book, well then, it MUST be true!  :roll: Hypocrites the the nth degree.

Hey WWASPIES - where's the proof that your prison camps actually work? You've been open long enough, show us the data already!!

They are zealots, program fundamentalists. They believe only what they want to believe, as this post shows. They cannot distinguish reality and truth, they know only the program. Grow a brain wwaspies!
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« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2006, 08:51:00 AM »
Discovery is intense group therapy?? That is a joke... The poor girl is sexually abused by her father and the mothers answer is to ship her of to a wwasp program... I wonder how long the mother knew of the abuse.. some people ar just plain sick!
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