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Anonymous:

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You praise these miracle drugs for closing down mental hospitals and giving the 'MI' freedom, but if that's the case, why are "jails the largest psychiatric facilities in each county"?

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85 percent of Schizphrenics do not take their prescribed meds. I don't know the percentages for
Bipolar and Depression. Although I don't think the
depressed are at risk for going to jail.

Not taking meds plus the high percentage of prisoners testing positive for meth at the time
of their crimes, I heard 90%, unconfirmd, is a
pretty good protocol for re-institutionalization
the mentally ill into jails.

Anonymous:

--- Quote ---"Well, what's worse, mental institutions or jail?"

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I am sure a jail is a worse environment that a psychiatric hospital.

For this discussion though, it is not too relevant.

These "forced treatment" law updated movement around the country is for outpatient treatment.

If you don't know what ACT, Assertive Community Treatment, is I can find something to post.

Community = outpatient

Deborah:
What I notice is that almost every week there is a news story of someone taking psych drugs having committed suicide or homicide. Something's not working. How can you expect society to jump on the drug treatment wagon when so many of the drugs cause the same effects they profess to 'cure'?
How many people are jailed who WERE taking their drugs and still committed crimes? That's the statistic I'm interested in.

Antigen:

--- Quote ---On 2006-02-05 08:49:00, Anonymous wrote:

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"Well, what's worse, mental institutions or jail?"


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I am sure a jail is a worse environment that a psychiatric hospital.

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I'm not. Not at all. In jail, nobody's needling you for intimate details, obsessing over your every mood and behavior or trying in ernest to convince you that that you're nuts.


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For this discussion though, it is not too relevant.

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Yeah it is.


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These "forced treatment" law updated movement around the country is for outpatient treatment.

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ORLY! And how, prey tell, do you think they enforce this outpatient treatment?


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If you don't know what ACT, Assertive Community Treatment, is I can find something to post.



Community = outpatient "

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Sure it does, provided you comply w/ your case worker or shrink demands and don't piss them off.

Ministers say that they teach charity. That is natural. They live on hand-outs. All beggars teach that others should give.
--Robert G. Ingersoll, American politician and lecturer
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Anonymous:

--- Quote ---On 2006-02-05 12:37:00, Deborah wrote:

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What I notice is that almost every week there is a news story of someone taking psych drugs having committed suicide or homicide.

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Well, you are the "researcher", I wonder why you don't have the aswers that you ask here. My guess is that the conspiricy site you visit may not be provided all the answers you are asking.

If all the answers where provided your foundation may be made out of sand, and you will find those that have carved out a niche as professional critics and sold you and many others a lot of hearsay that you consume and regurgitate as gospel.

It doesn't take a rocket scientest to know that the amount of people not mentally ill who commit suicide, or homicide on a weekly basis is much, much higher.

Studies have shown that the mentally are are less violent than the mentally ill on a per capita basis.

Any negative event involving a mentally ill person captures the attention of the public, so the news prints it, or shows it on TV.

It also provides the foundation for the anti sites
to have a cause ...

You may not see if now, but someday in retrospect you may recognize this, or maybe not ... who knows how much reality a person who is not involved daily with the symptomatic mental illness would tolerate if they did get involved.


--- Quote ---Something's not working. How can you expect society to jump on the drug treatment wagon when so many of the drugs cause the same effects they profess to 'cure'?

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Cure? You said cure? Wow, you are either kidding, or writing this down without thinking.

No one ever said psychotropic medication cures mental illness. That is why it is called a chronic illness. Look it up, enjoy the process of getting educated.


--- Quote ---How many people are jailed who WERE taking their drugs and still committed crimes? That's the statistic I'm interested in."

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Go ahead and research it, let me know the answer - thanks!

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