Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy
does this sound at all true?
Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2006-01-23 18:55:00, Anonymous wrote:
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--- Quote ---So then, you don't even hold out the pretense that this is about service to the kids. This is only about how better and more reliably to open the parents' wallets
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come on -- we both know it is about the business and and the service to the kids.
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How else is a business going to improve?
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Well, they might ask the kids (many of them now grown) and see what they think of the service. Instead, when kids do volunteer to say what they think of the place, they get law enforcement and/or process servers banging on their doors. Seems to me they don't really want to know. But that stands to reason. They don't seem too concerned w/ ruling out neuroses in the parents before treating the kids either. Distraught parents w/ money are the only obvious criteria for admission and happy parents bereft of as much of their money as is possible seems to be the goal.
Children, after all, are to be seen and not heard, right?
...it is worth discussing radical changes, not in the expectation that they will be adopted promptly but for two other reasons. One is to construct an ideal goal, so that incremental changes can be judged by whether they move the institutional structure toward or away from that ideal. The other reason is very different. It is so that if a crisis requiring or facilitating radical change does arise, alternatives will be available that have been carefully developed and fully explored."
Milton Friedman
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Deborah:
I'd think that if they wanted to know what 'doesn't' work and what might be changed, that they'd be seeking the opinions of those who were unhappy with their 'service'. There a few here. I know they're reading, not sure if they're taking notes.
Anonymous:
This young lady says it rather well:
no matter what, that place kept us from the people we loved, controlled our minds (or tried to ) and brought up new problems that all of us probablly never had....They can change the food, change the "off campus trips" and whatever, but the will never change their mind games or their power trips. Thank god for the staff the would be themselves secretly to me and understand me on a realistic way, or else i woulda never made it through- ugh
Mind games, power trips. Does anyone at HLA believe that these kids don't know what's being done to them? You'd be fooling yourself.
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseac ... 9863810341
TheWho:
***** Because your survey is bullshit, its based on faulty data but youre passing it off to potential customers as being scientific. *****
I dont think I mentioned it was scientific, I think I said "Level of the water" which is a general idea or a feel for "How we doin"
***** No one ever contacted my parents, nor have the contacted a number of parents of former inmates I speak to. *****
Cant answer why, I do know that many companies perform surveys for periods of time and/or every few years, its not ongoing. So you may have been missed.
***** Furthermore I can tell you without a doubt that of all the former inmates I speak to the ones who got pulled on average do better than the ones who stayed in.
Hows that for a survey? *****
and you consider that a Clinical Study?? Are you basing your decisions about the place based on your findings?? Are they accurate? Did you include everyone? Are the people you speak with biased against the school or are they a cross section of all those that left the school?
TheWho:
***** Because your survey is bullshit, its based on faulty data but youre passing it off to potential customers as being scientific. *****
I dont think I mentioned it was scientific, I think I said "Level of the water" which is a general idea or a feel for "How we doin"
***** No one ever contacted my parents, nor have the contacted a number of parents of former inmates I speak to. *****
Cant answer why, I do know that many companies perform surveys for periods of time and/or every few years, its not ongoing. So you may have been missed.
***** Furthermore I can tell you without a doubt that of all the former inmates I speak to the ones who got pulled on average do better than the ones who stayed in.
Hows that for a survey? *****
and you consider that a Clinical Study?? Are you basing your decisions about the place based on your findings?? Are they accurate? Did you include everyone? Are the people you speak with biased against the school or are they a cross section of all those that left the school?
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