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does this sound at all true?

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TheWho:

--- Quote ---No one from HLA has ever called me to see how successful I'm doing, and believe I am doing quite well. All thanks to escaping from that brainwashing camp. Also I know for a fact of dozens of people off hand that HLA never contacted.

So.....how can they claim these results when obviously the survey is biased?

Oh thats right they're full of shit and could care less about the truth.
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Dont feel bad,  what they do is call the parents and talk to them.  They typically dont call the students directly.  The phone conversation isnt structured like a survey, it is more like .... How is so and so doing,  Is she doing drugs, back in school, living at home etc.  

The results are unscientific, they are a survey (like any other company) but they are real and the school uses them to make decisions on how to conduct future business.... are they bias, yea maybe, but if the parents of the kids who dropped out dont want to respond what can you do?  You have to take what you can get.

Antigen:

--- Quote ---On 2006-01-23 17:58:00, Anonymous wrote:


The results are unscientific, they are a survey (like any other company) but they are real and the school uses them to make decisions on how to conduct future business.... are they bias, yea maybe, but if the parents of the kids who dropped out dont want to respond what can you do?  You have to take what you can get."

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So then, you don't even hold out the pretense that this is about service to the kids. This is only about how better and more reliably to open the parents' wallets.

Thanks for being up front about it. BTW, how would you know? Seriously. Are you on their mailing list? Do you get/make survey calls? Please give us a little perspective as to how you'd come by your info.
[1971 - 2001] the darkest chapter in Federal law enforcement history.
Committee on Government Reform
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Antigen:
Who needs a marketing survey when they can talk to the parents and former inmates themselves?

Neeeeeext!


God grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked anyway, the good fortune to run into the ones I do, and the eyesight to tell the difference.
Perl Services
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TheWho:

--- Quote ---So then, you don't even hold out the pretense that this is about service to the kids. This is only about how better and more reliably to open the parents' wallets
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come on -- we both know it is about the business and and the service to the kids.  This how they get feed back, good, bad or indifferent.  Sure it is about the family, the kids etc.  But every business needs to know how they are doing and one way is by contacting previous customers.  How else is a business going to improve?  And yes you are right, if their survey shows that they are providing a better value than they are getting then they will raise their price, it is only natural, why would that be wrong?

RobertBruce:
Because your survey is bullshit, its based on faulty data but youre passing it off to potential customers as being scientific.

No one ever contacted my parents, nor have the contacted a number of parents of former inmates I speak to.

Furthermore I can tell you without a doubt that of all the former inmates I speak to the ones who got pulled  on average do better than the ones who stayed in.

Hows that for a survey?

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