Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy
does this sound at all true?
TheWho:
***** Well, they might ask the kids (many of them now grown) and see what they think of the service. Instead, when kids do volunteer to say what they think of the place, they get law enforcement and/or process servers banging on their doors. Seems to me they don't really want to know. But that stands to reason. They don't seem too concerned w/ ruling out neuroses in the parents before treating the kids either. Distraught parents w/ money are the only obvious criteria for admission and happy parents bereft of as much of their money as is possible seems to be the goal. *****
Every business wants to know how their end product is doing (even if they know they are producing junk) its one of the best ways to adjust their price to meet demand.
They typically survey families who have recently graduated or left and then again after some time has passed to see how things have progressed. Kids who have been out for many years are not typically of value because the schools policys change over time. improve so to speak.
Car companies dont care how you like the suspension on your 1987 buick because so many improvements have been done since then the data is useless, they are more interested in feed back from more recent models.
Yes, you are right, money is the goal. But in order to beat the competition you have to keep providing better results and more value.
****Children, after all, are to be seen and not heard, right? *****
Not sure how to respond to that or if it is in reference to something I said. If you are asking if I agree with that statement, I dont.
Troll Control:
So, let me see if I'm getting this right. You want to know what the kids think about the program, right? You've said that.
How does that reconcile with the incontrovertable fact that when these kids (or former staff members for that matter) do speak up and say your program harmed them or you ripped them off, they get a nice visit from the Sherriff's deputy or a process server notifying them that they're being sued by you for spaeking out?
You want to hear feedback, but not anything negative or you sue. Pretty disturbing.
TheWho:
--- Quote ---On 2006-01-24 10:43:00, Anonymous wrote:
"So, let me see if I'm getting this right. You want to know what the kids think about the program, right? You've said that.
How does that reconcile with the incontrovertable fact that when these kids (or former staff members for that matter) do speak up and say your program harmed them or you ripped them off, they get a nice visit from the Sherriff's deputy or a process server notifying them that they're being sued by you for spaeking out?
You want to hear feedback, but not anything negative or you sue. Pretty disturbing."
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No not what kids think. We are talking about this from a purely business perspective, or I am. I noted that a survey is a quick way to tell how the kids are doing? Or survey the parents after the kids leave. This gives the business feed back on how the graduates are doing vs the ones who did not complete the program.
If this exercise is done periodically the school can get a broad or general idea if they are improving or not. A clinical study takes time and is expensive, and all too many times is inconclusive. A survey contains realtime data that can be applied immediately.
I also noted that it is typical to see a trend where those kids who drop out early do not do as well as those who complete the program. This is important information which would effect the business plan. This can be used to leverage or persuade the parents to have their kids finish.
TheWho:
--- Quote ---On 2006-01-24 10:43:00, Anonymous wrote:
"So, let me see if I'm getting this right. You want to know what the kids think about the program, right? You've said that.
How does that reconcile with the incontrovertable fact that when these kids (or former staff members for that matter) do speak up and say your program harmed them or you ripped them off, they get a nice visit from the Sherriff's deputy or a process server notifying them that they're being sued by you for spaeking out?
You want to hear feedback, but not anything negative or you sue. Pretty disturbing."
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If someone is soliciting your opinion and you give it you cannot be sued. Whoever told you this is blowing smoke.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2006-01-24 11:39:00, Anonymous wrote:
A clinical study takes time and is expensive, and all too many times is inconclusive. A survey contains realtime data that can be applied immediately.
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You can't be serious. You're actually comparing the value of a clinical study to that of informal and dubious "surveys"?
--- Quote ---I also noted that it is typical to see a trend where those kids who drop out early do not do as well as those who complete the program. This is important information which would effect the business plan. This can be used to leverage or persuade the parents to have their kids finish."
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BINGO!
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