Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy
does this sound at all true?
Anonymous:
You have no clue who I am.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2006-01-23 13:48:00, Anonymous wrote:
"You have no clue who I am."
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Well then, enlighten us. You're here offering to "confirm or refute" the claims that HLA is abusive etc. How do you come to be in a position to do so?
Troll Control:
--- Quote ---"if the kid would ever go!!"
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Don't you use escort services that make this point moot?
--- Quote ---"There have not been any Clinical studies done on HLA graduates. "
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Hang on, get this:
--- Quote ---"The findings are stunning"
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WHAT findings? Your opinion?
--- Quote ---"Many times the child can manipulate the parents into pulling them out "
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Those damned manipulating kids again.
Why not tell the truth and say that many intelligent, well-informed, professional parents have legitimate concerns with the gap between what you advertise and what you provide?
Who are you to be speaking on behalf of HLA? Maybe you are a manipulating teenager posing as an HLA marketer...?
Own your position and your identity or get lost. You have posted so much disinformation that you can't be taken seriously by anybody.
RobertBruce:
--- Quote ---On 2006-01-23 13:47:00, Anonymous wrote:
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--- Quote ---"They want kids to finish the program, because HLA's experience has shown that kids that finish the program do better than those who do not finish the program. Believe it or not, HLA actually cares about how their kids do after graduation."
So sayeth the marketing department. Kindy show a clinical study (not a questionaire sent exclusively to "satisfied customers")that shows your program works. WHERE IS YOUR DATA? Isn't it yet obvious that your "experience" is meaningless? You folks lie about everything to keep the cash coming in. That's been shown time and time again.
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There have not been any Clinical studies done on HLA graduates. What Schools typically do is call to see how students are adjusting to try to get a "Level of the water" so to speak on how the kids are doing after leaving a program. The findings are stunning, in most cases, that the students who dont finish do very poorly after they leave. Those who finish the program do better.
With this information in hand, the school would serve itself best by positioning the money so as to tip the scales in the favor of the kids sticking around. One way to do this is to offer incentives or have people pay in advance with no way to recoop the money if they pull their kid early.
As long as they are up front about it its not illegal or disserving to the parents.
Many times the child can manipulate the parents into pulling them out and then the kid gets home and does poorly , the school (and I wouldnt blame them) would want a hefty upfront payment to take the kid back in (if the kid would ever go!!).
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No one from HLA has ever called me to see how successful I'm doing, and believe I am doing quite well. All thanks to escaping from that brainwashing camp. Also I know for a fact of dozens of people off hand that HLA never contacted.
So.....how can they claim these results when obviously the survey is biased?
Oh thats right they're full of shit and could care less about the truth.
TheWho:
--- Quote ---On 2006-01-23 14:51:00, Anonymous wrote:
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"if the kid would ever go!!"
--- End quote ---
Don't you use escort services that make this point moot?
--- Quote ---"There have not been any Clinical studies done on HLA graduates. "
--- End quote ---
Hang on, get this:
--- Quote ---"The findings are stunning"
--- End quote ---
WHAT findings? Your opinion?
--- Quote ---"Many times the child can manipulate the parents into pulling them out "
--- End quote ---
Those damned manipulating kids again.
Why not tell the truth and say that many intelligent, well-informed, professional parents have legitimate concerns with the gap between what you advertise and what you provide?
Who are you to be speaking on behalf of HLA? Maybe you are a manipulating teenager posing as an HLA marketer...?
Own your position and your identity or get lost. You have posted so much disinformation that you can't be taken seriously by anybody.
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I never claimed my information came from a clinical study, in fact I said a clinical study was not done. Programs call students families to see how they are doing and get a "Level of the water". This means that the study isnt conclusive but they can at least get a feel for what/how they are doing. A lot of companies do this, clinical studies can take years and their results can be inconclusive, so many companies opt for a phone survey, which is quicker. It sounds like you have more accurate data?
--- Quote ---Own your position and your identity or get lost. You have posted so much disinformation that you can't be taken seriously by anybody.
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I own my position and my identity has not changed. you are just seeing a different opinion and one that is first hand.
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