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« on: January 12, 2006, 03:10:00 PM »
:question: When will this stop? When will our city, county, and government officials open their eyes to see what is going on with these kids? When will people realize this is wrong and that it is not the way to help anyone, let alone children and teens? When will something happen that will shake the right people up? This is dispicable and disgusting, and it continues to go on and on. Parents, wake up and take care of your kids.

Teen dies 3 hours after being admitted to military-style lockup. Lawmaker demands shutdown.
By Carol Marbin Miller and Mary Ellen Klas
[email protected], Miami Herald, January 11, 2006


PANAMA CITY - The sudden death of an apparently healthy Panama City teen at a military-style youth lockup prompted a prominent South Florida lawmaker to demand Tuesday that the controversial programs be shut down, while state officials say they will reexamine the policies that allow the use of physical force against children in state care.
Martin Lee Anderson, 14, who stopped breathing less than three hours after being admitted to the Bay County Sheriff's boot camp last week, is the most recent Florida child to die in the custody of state youth corrections officials under questionable circumstances.

''These places are terrible, they have been shown to be unsuccessful, and they should be shut down,'' said state Rep. Gustavo ''Gus'' Barreiro, a Miami Beach Republican who chairs the House Criminal Justice Appropriations Committee, and heads a separate committee that is investigating the treatment of youth in state care. ``I think they should be eliminated.''

The Department of Juvenile Justice, which contracts with counties to operate the boot camps, will review all the sheriff's offices' policies, said Cynthia Lorenzo, a DJJ spokeswoman in Tallahassee. Lorenzo declined to discuss the case.

Said Rep. Dan Gelber, a Miami Beach Democrat also on the oversight committee: ``How is it that we are incapable of simply preserving the lives we are entrusted with?''

The initial report of the Bay County Medical Examiner suggests Martin did not die from injury or physical trauma. The Florida Department of Law Enforcement confirmed Tuesday that it is investigating the incident, which was captured on the camp's security cameras.

Martin's parents, Robert Anderson and Gina Jones, dispute the medical examiner's findings. They believe their son was restrained, pushed up against a wall and beaten by drill instructors until he stopped breathing. On Tuesday, they filed documents indicating they intend to sue the state and Bay County officials for negligence.

''They shouldn't get away with this,'' Jones said. ``They threw him around like a little rag doll.''

Martin, six-foot-one and 140 pounds, was a healthy, rangy teen who played basketball for his middle school team, Jones said.

She and Anderson traveled from Panama City to Pensacola to be with their son Thursday as he was being transported to the trauma ward at Sacred Heart Hospital.

As they stood Friday morning over the limp body of their son, linked to life by the artificial breath of a respirator, they decided to let him go.

''The nurse said his kidneys and liver were gone,'' recalled Anderson, Martin's father. ``I didn't want to do it but, just looking at him, lying on that bed, he was doing nothing but suffering.''

FINAL LOOK

Anderson remembers the time: 1:42 a.m. Jones remembers her last look at her son: His nose was swollen, his lip cut, his cheek scraped. Blood had dripped from his nose to his ears and dried, she said.

Martin had been on a respirator since sometime between 9 and 10 a.m. the day before. He was on life support for 15 hours. He had been at the boot camp less than three, booked for violating his probation during a grand-theft case. ''He didn't even get a chance to eat lunch,'' Jones said.

At the center of the controversy are the state's six juvenile justice boot camps, all run by county sheriff's offices. The closest to South Florida are in Collier and Martin counties. Social scientists say the military camps simply don't work, failing to prevent youth from committing new crimes. Still, critics say state sheriffs have used their political muscle to keep the camps running.

And while DJJ administrators have launched many reforms in recent years to better protect children, the six boot camps were exempted from the reforms under pressure from sheriffs.

In July 2004, Gov. Jeb Bush and newly appointed DJJ Secretary Anthony Schembri announced an overhaul of the agency's policies on physical restraints. The result, the Youth Rights Policy, banned several types of restraints.

''You can't teach compassion by modeling callousness,'' Schembri said at the time.

The policy banned the use of several aggressive tactics such as shoulder locks, wristlocks and restraint chairs, which had been linked to injuries among detained youths. Months earlier, a former DJJ secretary had forbidden the use of the so-called hammerlock, which had caused a spate of broken arms.

In 2000, a willowy, 66-pound 12-year-old boy named Michael Wiltsie died after being placed in a ''full-body restraint'' by a counselor at a now-closed Eckerd wilderness camp in Ocala. Like Martin, the youngster had complained to counselors that he could not breathe, a state death review said.

But DJJ officials exempted boot camps from the new regulations, Barreiro told The Miami Herald, as sheriffs successfully argued they needed more latitude than traditional programs when dealing with difficult youth. Barreiro, who has operated youth programs, calls the exemption a mistake.

The boot camps ''should abide by the same procedures,'' he said. The reforms, he said, ''were written for the safety of the kids, after there were dire consequences'' from earlier restraints.

A darling of law enforcement agencies, boot camps came into vogue a decade or so ago as youth corrections officials were searching for new ways to stanch a wave of violent juvenile crime.

Social scientists researched the model rigorously, professors say, and studies concluded almost uniformly that paramilitary youth programs were not effective in deterring crime.

DJJ's records show about 62 percent of the youth who graduate from one of the state's boot camps are arrested again for some type of offense -- a recidivism rate experts call very high. Other programs for moderate-risk kids, such as wilderness camps, also have high re-arrest rates, but some, such as halfway houses, are much lower.

''Boot camps don't work,'' said Aaron McNeese, dean of the Florida State University College of Social Work, which has done some of the research.

`SCARED STRAIGHT'

Most boot camps were modeled after an earlier program called Scared Straight, which arranged for troubled kids to experience life within adult jails or prisons, said Frank Orlando, a 21-year Broward circuit judge who served more than a decade in juvenile court. The Scared Straight programs were mostly discontinued after a host of abuses were reported.

''There is no way to scare or frighten or work a child at those boot camps'' into changing their behavior, Orlando said. Such tactics, he added, might end up ``killing him -- or making him a more dangerous person.''

''The only reform for boot camps as they are operated in Florida right now is to eliminate them,'' added Orlando, who is director of the Center for the Study of Youth Policy at the Nova Southeastern University Law Center in Davie.

Still, said Orlando and McNeese, boot camps persist in Florida and elsewhere across the country because powerful law enforcement groups insist than can be effective in curbing youth crime.

''Just because it doesn't work doesn't mean people are not going to do it,'' McNeese said. ``There is a lot of investment in those programs -- political investment as well as financial -- and people have a stake in somebody sooner or later saying it's a great program.''
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« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2006, 05:24:00 PM »
Is a copy of the video online yet? If anyone has a link please post it. This is so horrific. These places should be shut down.

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« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2006, 11:49:00 PM »
How terrible - another example of how political corruption results in the death of American children.
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« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2006, 12:51:00 AM »
When a child dies, discipline has failed
OUR OPINION: LEGISLATURE SHOULD PULL FINANCIAL PLUG ON BOOT CAMPS
EDITORIAL: Miami Herald, January 13, 2006

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There can be no good reason why a healthy, athletic 14-year-old boy should enter a state-sponsored boot camp and end up on a stretcher fighting for his life three hours later. Yet that happened to Martin Lee Anderson of Panama City, who died hours after entering the Bay County Sheriff's Office Boot Camp last week.
State officials, who promised reforms after boot-camp violence two years ago, now say the state will review its policy of allowing physical force at the camps. That's not enough. The state has tried reforms and failed. The camps should be closed down altogether, as state Rep. Gustavo ''Gus'' Barriero, R-Miami, is suggesting.

Physical force
Detailed information about exactly what caused Martin's death awaits completion of an autopsy. But what is known thus far is all too familiar and highly disturbing. Rep. Barriero said the boy had bruises on his face and that his nose may have been broken. Unlike at state-operated juvenile-detention facilities, the Department of Juvenile Detention allows boot camps to use physical force against the juveniles in custody. The idea of the boot camps -- there are six in Florida -- is to rehabilitate the youngsters with a ''tough love'' program of physical exercise and strict discipline. The problem, however, is that the boot camps are almost all ''tough'' and very little ''love.'' The results are predictable. Many children leave the facilities bitter and angry, and with a keener sense of the power of physical confrontation.

Some people think that beating up on children can produce good results. They believe that boot camps are just an organized extention of the concept, ''Spare the rod; Spoil the child.'' They are wrong. These camps have mastered the art of bullying, intimidating and badgering children into submission. They neglect to mentor, teach and counsel their charges.

Florida doesn't need camps that demean children and break their spirit when there are dozens of other programs, such as Outward Bound and Vision Quest to name just two, that build pride and self-esteem in children through coaching, teamwork, respect and positive reinforcement.

Recidivism rate
''Tough love'' didn't work for girls, either. Florida shut down its only boot camp for girls two year ago in Polk County after reports of unacceptably high levels of recidivism among those who finished the program.

DJJ's own records show a 62 percent recidivism rate for boot-camp boys. Social science experts who have studied the camps say flat-out that they don't work. Scaring and frightening children doesn't change their behavior. State lawmakers should pull the financial plug on boot camps. They mustn't wait for another child to die while being "scared straight.'' email thisprint this
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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2006, 04:47:00 AM »
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when there are dozens of other programs, such as Outward Bound and Vision Quest to name just two

VisionQuest?  They have killed more kids than anyone else in the industry!
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« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2006, 10:44:00 AM »
It seems the more childern that die in these RTCs and boot camps the more there are parents that place there childern in them. Every time I read another poor child dies at the hands of these assholes the more I hate the parents. These people arent stupid, they read, they watch the news,theyve been on this site wantting to know what place to sent there kids, these parents KNOW what happens in those places and STILL they  send the child away,Knowing great harm can come to them.There should be RTCS for parents let them get a littel dose of what dangers lerk about in those places.Let them have 4-5 people sit on them and hold them down till they cant breath.  :flame:
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« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2006, 04:42:00 PM »
I agree but its the courts and Department of children and familys that are to blame for these kids dying, being killed. The sad part about all this is that it will never end. There will always be Boot Camps, RTCs ,Wilderness programs and deaths.
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« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2006, 10:54:00 PM »
The parents of this child did not put him in the program. The courts sent him there for some petty crime. There have been a lot of deaths at Vision Quest - they are no example of a lovely program.
Here's a parial list - maybe it could be sent to editor....
Dawnne Takeuchi, dead at age 18, VisionQuest
Carlos Ruiz, dead at age 13, VisionQuest
Mario Cano, dead at age 16, VisionQuest
John Vincent Garrison, dead at age 18, VisionQuest
Bernard Reefer, dead, VisionQuest
Robert Zimmerman, dead, VisionQuest
Charles Lucas, dead, VisionQuest
James Lamb, dead, VisionQuest
Tammy Edmiston, dead, VisionQuest
Leon Anger, dead, VisionQuest
Danny Lewis, dead at age 16, VisionQuest[ This Message was edited by: cherish wisdom on 2006-01-19 20:06 ]
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« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2006, 02:23:00 AM »
I heard Vision Quest kids died in a boating accident, that's why there were so many. Not sure it's true, just something I heard.
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« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2006, 03:04:00 PM »
People can and should write letters to the local papers and authorities in Florida to demand the public release of the video and other documents that detail the beating of the boy who died after being admitted to a Florida Boot Camp. If this place is paid for by the taxpayers then the public has a right to know what their taxdollars are being used for - MURDER OF INNOCENT CHILDREN.  

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