Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones
RMA staff I remember from RMA, you post yours from CEDU
deja vu strippers:
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Whooter:
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Like I said, I didnt see Rudy behind closed doors.
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Which is what I've been saying all along. You cannot, no matter how much knowledge you think you have, understand what it's like to be subjected to this kind of "therapy". Ever. We have a different vantage point. We can pick up on the subtleties of the loaded language and glossy advertisements. We can put it in a context that you'll never be able to get.
--- Quote --- But sure he could be a total different person with the door closed. My daughter never saw that side of him.
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That you know of. Maybe she didn't, but you don't really know.
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Yes and maybe he changed. You really dont know. No matter how much you try you can never know what it is like to be a program parent. But you pretend to know sometimes. So it needs to be able to go both ways. I can see things and pick up things that you would never be able to because you never saw a successful child complete a program.
You need to be a little bit more tolerant and open minded about other peoples experiences and points of view imo.
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Samara:
You are right. We wouldn't know what its like to be a program parent. Because we don't stick our kids in programs. But what we do know is how effectively programs BS parents. We know that quite well.
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Samara" ---You are right. We wouldn't know what its like to be a program parent. Because we don't stick our kids in programs.
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Of course you didn’t. The overwhelming majority of people don’t have to. Just like my other kids, they get through the tough patches on their own along with good parenting.
--- Quote ---But what we do know is how effectively programs BS parents. We know that quite well.
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Until you have spoken to kids (and their parents) who have been helped by programs then you don’t have sufficient information to conclude that. I have seen the marketing and kids who failed and kids who did well so I have a better perspective on whether or not the programs BS or not.
You have the disadvantage of seeing it from a kids perspective and then only those kids who didn’t do well which is only one facet.
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Samara:
Uh, Whooter do you know how many people cherrio'd the program after they graduated only to recant it later? Two words: Longitudinal Studies. It's called brainwash. I've met many a successful anti program person and many unsuccessful pro program people and vice versa. Whether you made it out ok or not is irrelevant to the question of whether sustained program abuse is acceptable.
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