Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones
RMA staff I remember from RMA, you post yours from CEDU
Whooter:
Thanks for the work, Ursus. That should answer Samaras question about whether Rudy and I are BFF. This shows he is a guy I met (head Master) while my daughter attended ASR. Every parent gets to know him on the same level.
I think it is important not to assume. Its always good to go back and look at the facts or the original posts.
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Troll Control:
ASR does not have an abuse hotline and no child can use the phone freely to report anything to anyone. Whooter knows this. Whooter has actually stated that there should not be an abuse hotline at programs because, if a kid called it, the "abuse hotline operator could talk dirty to them".
He went on to say that the kid should report the abuse to the abusers (program staff) and that they would always handle the situation correctly. See? No need for a silly phone to report silly abuse.
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Samara" ---How does Whooter propose we tell? The phones are locked in offices. We are in the mountains. Our calls and letters are monitored. It is their words against ours'.
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It had changed a bit from when you were in the program. My daughter had access to phones and we spoke each week without the call being monitored. She received all her letters from me and I received hers. The only time I remember them stepping in was when I brought her some clothes and one top contained sparkles and they didnt allow it and I had to take it back with me. They had a problem with sparkley stuff for some reason.
From a parents perspective Rudy seemed like a good guy and my daughter didnt have a problem with him either. So that is how I based my opinion of him. Thats first and second hand information.
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Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Samara" ---In fact, I distinctly remember when asking my parents --when they came in person every three months for a few hours on campus--to release me from that place. I did not give them any details because I knew it would come back to haunt me if they refused. Not just a little bit, but severe emotional trauma via raps. I may as well wear a bull's eye.
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I think this shows the big difference between CEDU and ASR. There was only one kid who asked to go home out of my childs peer group. The parents gave in and took her out. But my daughter and the rest didn’t complain about it. We were there for more than a few hours. We spent the day and joined in the wrap up at the end of the day (they had a name for it) with all the kids in the big room (great Room?).
They announced who could watch the movie, who was on restriction and what duties each group had. It was far from a secretive place.
Hearing some of the stories about CEDU over the years here, I can see why they shut down and were not too successful.
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Joel:
Edited: Wednesday, October 06, 2010
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