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RMA staff I remember from RMA, you post yours from CEDU
DannyB II:
--- Quote from: "Samara" ---First, Whooter, Anne has been consistent on these threads for the duration.
LOL.....Anne has been consistent on these threads, really. Well in what category would that be. Overzealous, oppressive, opinionated, judgmental, stubborn, blind, verbally abusive, childish, vulgar.
Anne does have passion no doubt, she believes in her causes, I agree with most of her advocacy but she doesn't know how to listen to another point of view without attacking the persons character. In her opinion if you disagree with me you must be wanting to hurt the kids or you are brainwashed, that's it.
--- Quote ---You have not. Your strength is articulation and retaining a level of calm, which sometimes veers toward subtle contempt. Usually, you try to keep a lid on that because you are smart enough to know that levelheaded debate appears more credible to those who are inexperienced in these matters. But there are a lot of level headed sociopaths out there. They're calm because they don't care. They lack empathy.
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How about his strength is being level headed and leave it at that, because if you go any further you had better throw Ursus in that circle because you just described him also. Just because someone is calm does not mean they have a sense of indifference just means they do not let emotion rule them.
You btw are starting to show your true colors. Why are you here anyways.
--- Quote ---The fact is, if you really are BFFs with Rudy Bentz, former CEDU power staff, it says a lot about you as a person. RB was cult guru and inculcated all at the same time. There are many people who would love to talk to him face to face.
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Inculcate said resembled Lane Mechem ( missplelled).....funny stuff here..
Anne Bonney:
--- Quote from: "Samara" --- Your strength is articulation and retaining a level of calm, which sometimes veers toward subtle contempt.
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:notworthy: :notworthy:
Understatement of the year.
Anne Bonney:
--- Quote from: "DannyB II" --- In her opinion if you disagree with me you must be wanting to hurt the kids or you are brainwashed, that's it.
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Don't attempt to speak for me. You're barely capable of speaking for yourself.
Samara:
1. I am simply saying Anne's position is consistent. I don't really understand the problem with her passion - if you were systematically abused (and in my view, Straight was particularly degrading) and wanted to save people from similar experiences,then passion is warranted. If you went on a site for abuse victims, and tried to mitigate/invalidate their experiences, you should expect to draw ire. Same here. She is sincere. That says a lot.
2. Then, yes, I am attacking Whooter - but not for being level headed. The calm demeanor is tactical, and if you reviewed all the posts for the past few years, you might understand why so many people with different temperaments take issue with him. It is all smoke and mirrors. And for people ho were hurt in these programs it is all the more insulting.
3. I was addressing Whooter's affilation with Rudy. The BFF was just me being snarky. DB - You don't know Rudy. He was notorious power staff at CEDU. He was subsequently affiliated wit Whooter's beloved program. Whooter's program is not benign if they employ the same staff and the same experientials.
4. Whooter gets under people's skin because he uses the "let's have a two-sided debate" strategically. It is a persona created to undermine the anti-program perspective. It is not a persona rooted in authenticity. We have all seen that over years of posts. It is insulting and frankly, hurtful. I'm not going to sit here and pretend I don't care. It's not that he takes an opposing view - he takes an invalidating view. But pretends not to. However, I will say he is skilled and surgical. But insincere.
5. I said there are many people who would love to speak to Rudy. As in former students who seek closure. Haven't you ever wanted to speak to any former staff who were particularly abusive, as an adult? They no longer have power of you.
6. I'm not sure why you'd insult Anne's style without reflecting on your past posts. I expect you to belittle me after I tell you this, but your sexualized verbal aggression toward her in one of the threads was very unsettling. It actually hurt to read it just as a human being.
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Whooter is "surgical"? I could not disagree more. His approach is as ham-handed as it comes. Notwithstanding how he writes, he cannot form a logical thought or have a rational argument. He simply avoids what he doesn't want to talk about while responding with ad hominems galore. If that doesn't work, he makes up "data" from thin air and presents it as if it were valid somehow. That's not surgical. That's run-of-the-mill dumbassery.
But you are right about his sexualized aggression toward Anne. He obviously needs attention from a woman for whatever reason and he has seen a picture of Anne's bikini'ed backside which he has brought up several times. It's no stretch of the imagination to envision him sitting there at his desk furiously masturbating while looking at Anne's picture and degrading her on Fornits. He is definitely one seriously warped person. But you hit it on the head - it's aggressive and it's sexualized.
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