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« on: November 12, 2005, 01:35:00 PM »
Last night I watched:

Andrea Yates: E! True Hollywood Story

I highly recommend it to all.

Next showing tonight, Nov 12 at 7pm

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http://www.eonline.com/On/Holly/Shows/Yates/

E! reveals the facts of the case of a mom who murdered her kids.

Was it postpartum depression?

Was she influenced by TV?  

An Infanticide Trial Grips the Nation and Shakes Up the Texas Law Books

Airs: Nov. 11, 8p; Nov. 12, 7p

Andrea Yates

Things were finally looking up for Rusty and Andrea Yates when they moved out of their cramped, renovated bus into a nice suburban home in Houston. The outlook was even brighter for their five young children. Then things got dark. Very dark.

Andrea Yates: E! True Hollywood Story examines the descent and destruction of a mother whose psychiatric struggles led her to do the unthinkable: drown her four sons and infant daughter. See what motivated a mother to commit such heinous crimes and the strange, meandering murder trial that followed.

What were the warning signs? Was Andrea Yates insane, or was she suffering from an extreme case of postpartum depression? And how did an episode of the legal drama Law & Order overturn her murder conviction?

When Rusty Yates came home from work one day to find his wife shaking involuntarily and chewing on her fingers, he knew she needed help. A brief hospitalization and a strict regimen of medication seemed to put Andrea Yates back on the road to recovery. But it wasn't long before she stopped taking the pills. She became paranoid and told her husband that the characters on TV shows were talking to her and the children.

Andrea's psychiatrist warned them that having another baby might bring on more episodes of psychotic behavior, but the Yates wouldn't listen. Six months after the birth of their first daughter, Andrea drowned her children one by one in the bathtub, saying she wasn't a good mother and needed to be punished.

Prosecutors claimed the gruesome murders Yates committed and her insanity defense were inspired from an episode of Law & Order. A jury found her guilty after three and a half hours of deliberation, but Yates' defense team later discovered that there was no such episode.

An appeals court ruling could lead to a new trial, but what is your verdict on Andrea Yates? Tune in to her True Hollywood Story--and judge for yourself.
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Offline screann

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« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2005, 11:54:00 AM »
She knew what she was doing. She chased her oldest through out the house to drown him. Its so sad he watched them die. She should be put to death.She had it all planned. Those poor, poor kids.Any mother that could kill her own child should die the same way they did. I dont have any pitty for her. ::armed::  ::armed::  ::armed::  ::armed:: [ This Message was edited by: screann on 2005-12-13 08:57 ]
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« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2005, 12:01:00 PM »
I think we should put her to death now and then if it turns out to be the wrong decision later we could just plead insanity.
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« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2005, 12:49:00 PM »
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On 2005-12-13 08:54:00, screann wrote:

"She knew what she was doing. She chased her oldest through out the house to drown him. Its so sad he watched them die. She should be put to death.She had it all planned. Those poor, poor kids.Any mother that could kill her own child should die the same way they did. I dont have any pitty for her. ::armed::  ::armed::  ::armed::  ::armed:: [ This Message was edited by: screann on 2005-12-13 08:57 ]"


Well then, I guess you do not believe in
mental illness?

I also guess that you think a mentally ill
person cannot think, or act?

Is your impression of a mentally ill person
of catatonia?

Perhaps you could rent, or check out at the
library, some videos on the mentally ill.

You should see them ... walking, talking,
eating, shitting ... the whole gambit!
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« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2005, 12:55:00 PM »
Why not send her a letter and ask her why she did it? I'm sure she has the time to answer.  :lol:
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« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2005, 01:59:00 PM »
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On 2005-12-13 09:55:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Why not send her a letter and ask her why she did it? I'm sure she has the time to answer.  :lol: "


The reasons, or rather, her history of mental illness where all brought out in court.

Her post-partum depression was explained over
and over in the newspapers.

Her story was on the E channel.

It was in People magazine.

I don't think she needs to repeat it in a letter ...
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« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2005, 10:42:00 PM »
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« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2005, 10:52:00 PM »
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On 2005-12-13 19:42:00, Anonymous wrote:

"http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=3515&forum=9&start=30#26040

http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... =190#43514

http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=3515&forum=9

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Does it make you mad that she was non-compliant on her medications and the murders where done when
she was not on meds?

Is that why you posted all that meds cause all evil
links?
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« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2005, 01:08:00 AM »
Not at all dear. There were a few other factors left out.... like her religious brainwashing and the strong possibility of adverse reaction to the drugs and/or changing and/or withdrawing.

No doubt she was a mess. It's damned unfortunate that she didn't have someone living in to monitor and assist with her five children.

Like the family on Nanny911 last night. Six kids, no clue what they were doing, total chaos in the home, dad busy with activities, mom present in body only, but they wanted more kids.

Amazing that the shrinks haven't identified the irrational drive to have a brood of kids as a disorder.
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« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2005, 01:18:00 AM »
I have a lot of compassion for Mrs. Yates. But the climate has changed a lot since her first trial. She may be very wise to pass on a re-trial, and consider herself lucky that she just got a prison term for these murders. Another Texas Jury just might give her the death penalty is she opts for a new trial.
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« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2005, 09:32:00 AM »
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Amazing that the shrinks haven't identified the irrational drive to have a brood of kids as a disorder."


I wish they could too, but then all the
psych bashers would bitch that they are
trying to "control", or whatever their
motivation to only criticize.

Thanks for bringing up the religious angle
and her lame ass husband.

Religion, not much that can be done to help
the gullible.

Her husband, after I watched the E story, I
felt he was more guilty than her.

Our justice system is so lame that she got
100% of the blame, and walked free, remarried
and has what, three kids already.

Next up: Andrea Yates, the next wife's murders ...
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« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2005, 09:36:00 AM »
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On 2005-12-13 22:18:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I have a lot of compassion for Mrs. Yates. But the climate has changed a lot since her first trial. She may be very wise to pass on a re-trial, and consider herself lucky that she just got a prison term for these murders. Another Texas Jury just might give her the death penalty is she opts for a new trial.

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Perhaps, I haven't read the reasons why the mistrial, nor the strategy for the new one.

I will keep an eye out and post when something
comes up.
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« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2005, 12:28:00 PM »
The State expert psychiatric witness Dr. Dietz testified that Yates patterned her actions after a LAW & ORDER TV episode that never existed.  The trial judge erred in not granting a mistrial once it was learned that Dr. Dietz's testimoney was false.
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« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2005, 04:13:00 PM »
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On 2005-12-14 09:28:00, Joyce Harris wrote:

"The State expert psychiatric witness Dr. Dietz testified that Yates patterned her actions after a LAW & ORDER TV episode that never existed.  The trial judge erred in not granting a mistrial once it was learned that Dr. Dietz's testimoney was false.



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Oh, yeah! That is right, thanks!
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« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2005, 08:17:00 PM »
I sent my letter off today. I'll post a reply when I get a response.
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