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follow-up questions on Hyde School
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-11-28 07:35:00, Anonymous wrote:
""IMHO, arrogant more appropriately fits with the original posters negative interpretation of the events. Who were they....doctor? Psychiatrist? No, just some observer with limited facts and a biased frame of reference. "
There you go again! You say this was simply an observer with limited facts and a biased frame of reference. How do you know this Mr Arrogant? Did the poster say what he/she does for a living? Hyde has enrolled MANY kids whose parents are in the field of Psychology and just MAYBE this person is one of those! Your credibility will be much stronger if you stop assuming and stop being a "know it all!!"
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Hmmmm. Your arguement is a bit of a non-sequitur.
You suggest that I suggest (or stated) that the poster was not in the field of psychology, and they might have had more facts and information, and that they weren't biased.
The first point I never come close to saying.
The second point is based on the post itself. Go back and read it. If they had more info, they didn't post it, and personally, you can choose to believe their limited facts and interpretation if you want, but clearly they chose to post limited facts and to write it in a way that made it fairly clear some of their information was not first hand.
On the third point, I say it was biased interpretation because they arrived at a negative conclusion of the circumstances that without more information seemed unwarranted.
Aside from being short on facts, what if the family now says it was the best thing to ever happen in their lives?
I don't presume to be a know it all. But I also won't buy a pig in a poke without having it inspected.
Most of the people on this site seem to have a negative Hyde bias and so are predisposed to believe things that fit with their model.
I have no problem with factual personal experiences. But I will continue to challenge "facts" about observations of third-party experiences and interpretations of what those meant to that person.
Anyway, I think it would be more apt to say I am a "want to know it all, so I can draw more legitimate conclusions". On that I would have to agree.
Anonymous:
Ok, you want first hand experiences? Here it is buddy, and I am sure you will come back with something negative once again.
I WITNESSED an inner city girl hitting another girl, (my friend) over the head with a bottle. The way that Hyde handled it was the following:
Took her escorted to the hospital without notifying her parents. Hyde didn't tell the hospital how this injury happened. Brought her back to the school after being diagnosed as having a concussion. Still hadn't called the parents. Hyde told the injured girl that because she had been in a fight she would go on 2-4 at 5:00AM the next morning. NO ONE checked on my injured friend the entire night even though she had a concussion and was supposed to be looked in on each hour. She could have died in her sleep and no one would have known till the next morning! My friend called her parents to tell her what happened because the school didn't.
So there is your first hand knowledge! Would you like more because I have lots more!!
Anonymous:
yeah...let's hear more!!!!
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-11-29 07:50:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Ok, you want first hand experiences? Here it is buddy, and I am sure you will come back with something negative once again.
I WITNESSED an inner city girl hitting another girl, (my friend) over the head with a bottle. The way that Hyde handled it was the following:
Took her escorted to the hospital without notifying her parents. Hyde didn't tell the hospital how this injury happened. Brought her back to the school after being diagnosed as having a concussion. Still hadn't called the parents. Hyde told the injured girl that because she had been in a fight she would go on 2-4 at 5:00AM the next morning. NO ONE checked on my injured friend the entire night even though she had a concussion and was supposed to be looked in on each hour. She could have died in her sleep and no one would have known till the next morning! My friend called her parents to tell her what happened because the school didn't.
So there is your first hand knowledge! Would you like more because I have lots more!! "
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Well, actually the discussion was about a third-hand witnessing of some events where the poster drew a negative conclusion and didn't provide sufficient detail to allow the reader to come to that same conclusion.
This is a new post, new subject, but ok, lets discuss.
+How do you know Hyde didn't tell the hospital how the injury happened? That seems odd, just because its typically the patient who tells the doctor what happened, and moreso, that two students had a fight doesn't seem like something that you need G. Gordon Liddy in on to make sure the cover up is complete.
+Did you hear the diagnosis and prescribed standard of care upon discharge?
+Concussion is a very loosely and often misused word. "Concussion has many different meanings to patients, families, and physicians. One definition of concussion is a traumatically induced alteration in mental status with or without associated loss of consciousness." And sometimes people use it for any head injury even if they are fine (if not a little sore or stitched up).
+Do you know what the doctor said in terms of care once discharged? I am surprised the hospital released this person if they were really at risk that night of dying in their sleep, but what you don't seem to know is anything the doctor said and whether Hyde followed this.
+If this was a mild concussion, I have no trouble with her going on 2/4 the next day, relative to whatever limitations the doctor prescibed.
Anonymous:
Maybe you are the one who got a concusion because no one in their right mind would say the things you have said or recommend that someone go on 2-4 when they were diagnosed with a concussion the night before!
I won't even dignify your response with much of an answer because you are a joke! The only thing I will say is that yes, yes, and yes. I do know what was said at the hospital, etc based on what both the student and parent told me. Of course they could be lying as you think with anyone who says anything negative about Hyde.
Keep defending Hyde, someone needs to!
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