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follow-up questions on Hyde School
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-11-30 11:41:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Maybe you are the one who got a concusion because no one in their right mind would say the things you have said or recommend that someone go on 2-4 when they were diagnosed with a concussion the night before!
I won't even dignify your response with much of an answer because you are a joke! The only thing I will say is that yes, yes, and yes. I do know what was said at the hospital, etc based on what both the student and parent told me. Of course they could be lying as you think with anyone who says anything negative about Hyde.
Keep defending Hyde, someone needs to!"
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Here's how it looks to me. As best I can understand it, your email says Hyde took a student to the hospital for an injury sustained in a fight, and that based on the reports of the student and her parents she was neglected and/or abused in the process.
It seems to me that the only way you could know this is to have been the Hyde administator/teacher handling the matter, as only they know what was communicated to and from the Hospital. That is, how could anyone know about communications between Hyde and the hospital outside the physical presence of the minor student? And given that, how can one draw any conclusions at all about Hyde's treatment of the student?
FWIW, I would also want to know about the circumstances of the fight as well. I'm not sure it would ultimately be relevant, but it seems to me that this back-story could heavily influence how we try and understand limited factual information.
Anonymous:
Your statement tells me that you give no credence to the student who reported this to us nor do you give credence to the Mother who verified the incident.
So, basically what you seem to be saying is that the school is the only person you would believe, and considering it was a young staff member with a history of abuse herself who took the teen to the hospital, I can't buy into your implied theory.
To even ask what kind of fight this girl was in is irrelevant. Even if she had started the fight, (which is not the case) the parents still should have been notified their child had to be taken to the hospital. The parents also should have been updated on her condition after she returned to the school.
Sure am glad you are not my father!! Sounds like if your child was in his room crying and said he was just sexually abused, you would tell him he had to prove it before you would believe him! You certainly are entitled to your opinion and thanks to this great country of ours you are free to say what you want, but my opinion is you have a warped sense of right from wrong.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-11-30 14:17:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Your statement tells me that you give no credence to the student who reported this to us nor do you give credence to the Mother who verified the incident.
So, basically what you seem to be saying is that the school is the only person you would believe, and considering it was a young staff member with a history of abuse herself who took the teen to the hospital, I can't buy into your implied theory.
To even ask what kind of fight this girl was in is irrelevant. Even if she had started the fight, (which is not the case) the parents still should have been notified their child had to be taken to the hospital. The parents also should have been updated on her condition after she returned to the school.
Sure am glad you are not my father!! Sounds like if your child was in his room crying and said he was just sexually abused, you would tell him he had to prove it before you would believe him! You certainly are entitled to your opinion and thanks to this great country of ours you are free to say what you want, but my opinion is you have a warped sense of right from wrong."
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I am not saying the school is the only person that can be believed, I am saying we simply don't know what the school representatives discussed with the hospital outside of earshot of the student....and so can't jump to any conclusions about medical treatment and abuse.
I totally agree that if they weren't, the family should have been notified. I don't agree that Hyde was medically derelict or abusive of the student.
And FWIW, having watched enough Jerry Springer, if she started a fight and, for instance, caused injury to another person or this was otherwise somehow potentially a liability issue, then I imagine a family saying all sorts of things to protect itself and deflect from the primary issue.
All that goes to say is, I don't buy that there are no facts where the back-story could be relevant.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---I am not saying the school is the only person that can be believed, I am saying we simply don't know what the school representatives discussed with the hospital outside of earshot of the student....and so can't jump to any conclusions about medical treatment and abuse.
I totally agree that if they weren't, the family should have been notified. I don't agree that Hyde was medically derelict or abusive of the student.
And FWIW, having watched enough Jerry Springer, if she started a fight and, for instance, caused injury to another person or this was otherwise somehow potentially a liability issue, then I imagine a family saying all sorts of things to protect itself and deflect from the primary issue.
All that goes to say is, I don't buy that there are no facts where the back-story could be relevant."
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Oh please, are you for real? This girl did not start the fight, (I was there as well as many others) nor was there a liability issue. The parents simply felt it was wrong they could not find out how their daughter was nor were they notified immediately!
Do you also think it is ok that the former Headmaster at Woodstock used to allow underage kids to serve liquor at their private parties! Yes, I do have proof of this from other teachers as well as a couple of students who served the beer and wine as part of their job for the night!
Sorry, but IMHO this school is full of hypocricies!!
You have a very vivid imagination re the girl who was hit with a bottle. I guess it is from watching too much Jerry Springer!
Anonymous:
I too remember when we were asked to serve at the Headmasters house! We were told it was ok to serve the beer and wine because we weren't drinking it. I never knew if this was true or not, but I did what I was told to do. I remember my Mom was real mad about this. She said it was horrible for kids with abuse problems to be serving alchohol. I think she spoke to someone at the school about it.
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