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Why Did YOU Stay Away?
GregFL:
Why did you stay away Ft Lauderdale? Damn its hard to keep you on topic...
Thom:
Greg, First off, congrats on post #2000! I don't know if you win a prize, or anything. Ask Ging. I would like to address the 'why did YOU stay away' question.
At some point after I graduated the second time, I decided I was different from the rest of the group, and it was OK for me to drink a beer or 12 from time to time. I continued going to meetings for a while, and nobody 'busted' me, but I soon felt like I didn't have much in common with the group anymore. I no longer had the honesty edge, and didn't feel I fit in. I had a secret, and it just got too uncomfortable for me to sit there and play 'straight', knowing I was technically not. The separation, for ME, was painful as I enjoyed the place, and felt a part of something positive for a long time. I am grateful for the life I have now, and
I love my family fiercely. I would take a bullet for my wife, my kids, both natural and step, my grandchildren (only one bullet between them...hey, I don't want to get killed or anything :roll: see ya!
Ft. Lauderdale:
Thom - you should check with Letterman to see if there are any writer openings. Your good man or your good man ::rocker::
Greg, I was ther at the end. What are you really asking?
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-09-22 13:51:00, Anonymous wrote:
"For all those who seem inflamed by the word "cult" associated with the group, I have one (or two) questions:
Once you decided to leave (for whatever reasons), why did most of you stay far away, without even a phone call to your "friends" for such a long time? Why didn't you drop by for a rap every once in a while or call one of the staff or long time grads (who were closely connected to the seed) for dinner some night?
Something tells me that you knew better and in your mind your were thinkin', "I'll just stay the f____ away, for a long, long time." Or was it that the "unusual closeness" was somewhat disturing to someone who had left and might comback to find himself on the front row, once again. "Gee, I was just droppin' by to say, hi you guys! I certainly don't deserve this much attention, again." But all of this is my intial gut feeling.
I'm sincerely curious, why YOU stayed away. Come on reach deep down inside, be honest and answer why, especially if you so deeply supported the group.
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John Underwood:
I can only speak for myself.
My closest and dearest friends in the world today are former Seedlings. It is through one of them that I found out about this site. (The bond between us, of course, has matured over the years) It not only began at The Seed, but was only possible because of The Seed. I'm not going to write an essay here about friendship, but I will say I consider myself to be extremely fortunate to have these people as friends, relationships of a love, depth and commitment I never would have dreamed possible once upon a time. I think, probably, much of what's missing, in the way of understanding, is that much of the loyalty I, (and others), exhibit at this site is because of this, as well as, what The Seed did for me, (us), personally.
As to why I didn't return??? This should be patently obvious. Though I thought about it many times over the years, I believed that my presence there would have been, at the very least, disruptive. Lybbi's reaction to me, when we chanced to meet in 2001, was disappointing, but certainly not unexpected, and confirmed what I had always believed. Besides, as some of you, (later-day Seedlings), have pointed out, The Seed became, (was already becoming), exactly what I believed it would when I left.
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