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Anonymous:
For all those who seem inflamed by the word "cult" associated with the group, I have one (or two) questions:


Once you decided to leave (for whatever reasons), why did most of you stay far away, without even a phone call to your "friends" for such a long time? Why didn't you drop by for a rap every once in a while or call one of the staff or long time grads (who were closely connected to the seed) for dinner some night?


Something tells me that you knew better and in your mind your were thinkin', "I'll just stay the f____ away, for a long, long time." Or was it that the "unusual closeness" was somewhat disturing to someone who had left and might comback to find himself on the front row, once again. "Gee, I was just droppin' by to say, hi you guys! I certainly don't deserve this much attention, again." But all of this is my intial gut feeling.


I'm sincerely curious, why YOU stayed away. Come on reach deep down inside, be honest and answer why, especially if you so deeply supported the group.

wtaylorg:
In 1985 when staff told me I had to park my '63 olds and get rides into the Seed everyday because I didn't have the money for car insurance or gas, because I was one of the guys told to come in everyday.
I knew I had to leave.
While I watched others work and have the things I wanted, the important things, like a job with health insurance/a sense of gaining in this world.
 In my mind then after 3 yrs of working to achieve what i saw others take for granted, Freedom, I finally realized I wasn't the "cream of the crop" and I told Bob W. as much. I had made a mistake coming down here.

I left the next day after my 45 second converstion with Lybbi.
Bob told me to call in a couple of days. So, I called from Kentucky on my way back to OH. I believe Bob W. was as surprised to be talking to me that day as I was to him. I hung up the phone and realized I would never have anything to do with the Seed again.
That moment the people I believed were my friends/family for 7 yrs, I knew I would never know anymore.
It was fuzzy at first than it became clearer everday. I never had friends at the Seed, just conditional acquaintances.

The day I arrived back home my brother was waiting to meet me and my life's journey was finally to begin.

Anonymous:
bob w. was still there in 1985?
do you, or anyone here know how long he stayed there?

GregFL:
well, I was ostracized and not spoken to by the seedlings because I graduated and decided that I wanted to be a normal kid, so I started talking to the "jocks" the "druggies" and all the other kids in my school. This caused the faithfull to see me as the enemy.

Napolean Bonafart:
That's why I'm glad to be rid of the whole bunch of robots. The only people I [aid attention to was staff during raps. I hardly ever had anything to add to the rap sessions. Myfirst old-Timer meeting was worse so just stayed gone and ent on with my life.
Being sleepy can impair someone's ability to do thier job.  People
can sleep at home and come to the job with sleepiness still in their system. The sleepiness can still be there long after the employee has slept. When someone is found to be sleepy on the job, they can claim that they went to sleep the night before.  The only solution to this problem is to ban employees from sleeping.

--Arthur Slabosky
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