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Antigen:

--- Quote ---On 2005-09-20 22:18:00, Thom wrote:

It may seem strange for me to be praising Ginger, seeing as how we see eye to eye on very little when it comes to things discussed here, but hey, give credit where it is due.

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Strange? What in the world is so strange about a brother saying nice, supportive things about his little sister? Oh yeah, I almost forgot, I'm an apostate. Better not get my hopes up.....


--- Quote ---My hope for her is that she one day comes to understand that powerlessness does NOT equate to weakness.

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Ah, the punch line! I knew it was coming. Did you? "Too bad the poor dear is missing out on the gift of powerlessenss. What a shame!"


--- Quote ---I praise God for my salvation. Art, John, Lybbi, Lybbi, Lybbi, etc. were only tools. We had in common that they had been where I was headed.

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Thom, you must be looking into the same crystal ball as John is. Where were you headed before the Seed? Who the hell knows? All I know about that is where you landed up afterward. And I don't think it's unreasonable at all to assume that the Seed had a profound influence on those events.

Your wishing the same for me is like a damned death threat! It hurts me to know that you'd want that for me almost as much as what you evidently assume about my life, having not been a part of it for decades now.

Thanks but no thanks. I do miss you, but not enough to risk my own sanity and happiness by forever fending off your attempts to "help" me gain what you've got. I don't want it, frankly. I'm quite happy w/ what I've got, even w/o your involvement.

There is nothing on earth intended for innocent people so horrible as a school.  To begin with, it is a prison.  But it is in some respects more cruel than a prison.  In a prison, for instance, you are not forced to read books written by the wardens...School was to me a sentence of penal servitude.
--George Bernard Shaw
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Thom:

--- Quote ---On 2005-09-21 13:59:00, Antigen wrote:


Your wishing the same for me is like a damned death threat! It hurts me to know that you'd want that for me almost as much as what you evidently assume about my life, having not been a part of it for decades now.



Thanks but no thanks. I do miss you, but not enough to risk my own sanity and happiness by forever fending off your attempts to "help" me gain what you've got. I don't want it, frankly. I'm quite happy w/ what I've got, even w/o your involvement."

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I guess that was a bit on the preachy side. I make no apology or retraction, but I respect your skepticism. Let me re-state. I wish for you and yours the best that life has to offer. What I wish for me is to see the day when all this Seed/Straight stuff is settled for you, and you and I can sit down and have a normal conversation. Talk about Grandkids and vacations and stuff. No debates, no interrogation, Just a brother and sister who care about each other and can enjoy each other's company. I miss you too....as much as a stepcraft zombie can, I quess. :wink:

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later, ThomI think I know where I got off track! I thought the 11th step said 'Sought through beer and medication to remove our conscious contact w/ God...I plead lysdexia![ This Message was edited by: Thom on 2005-09-21 21:23 ]

GregFL:
You guys should make it happen. Set a guideline on off the table topics and hook your families up.

Almost brings a tear to my eye thinking about it.

Antigen:
So you say, Thom. I've heard that before, and believed it, and made plans and traveled and got my hopes up and got my kids all excited. Ya' don't have to hit me over the head w. a 2x4 more than a few times. I finally "got it".

Thanks for the well wishes, Greg. But he really doesn't talk so sweet w/o an audience.
 
My initial response was to sue her for defamation of character, but then I realized that I had no character.
-- Charles Barkley, on hearing Tonya Harding proclaim herself "the Charles Barkley of figure skating"

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Ft. Lauderdale:
And I'm sure you do, my dear. :silly:

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