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The Seed compared to Str8
Ft. Lauderdale:
Antigen said...Finally, anon, wtf do you mean I'm in denial? Denial of what? Who are you and what makes you think you know anything true about me, aside from what I've said myself? Are you kin to me? Cause I haven't talked to, far less spent time w/, any of my own family of origin in a number of years. I know they've got plenty to say about me, but they never have bothered to get to know me in real life. It's all just gossip.
I suspected it was all about your family, and the above statement explains it all to me right there.
I'm sorry that your family won't bother to have anything to do with you. I'm sorry that this site has to fill the void for you. Maybe you should take your energies and reach out to them, its not too late. It never is. Just maybe Socrates knew what he was talking about.
I refuse to argue with you any longer. The Seed was not perfect but it did a hell of alot of good.
I do wish you the best, and hope you find the love and knowledge to move on.[ This Message was edited by: Ft. Lauderdale on 2005-09-01 05:32 ]
GregFL:
The seed I knew as a child was never voluntary. They coerced you after hours of badgering and lying to you to "sign yourself in just to see if you like it and then leave if you want to after three days " then threatened you with a "court order" and increased time if you tried to leave. If you ran for the door, they threw you to the concrete and piled on you.
Very very few of the thousands of Children commited there actually signed themselves in.
Voluntary...?
What a crock of shit!!!
starry-eyed pirate:
So the Seed it seems was an involuntary program that apparently became strictly voluntary at some point ?? How and when did this change occur ?? If the Seed was involuntary then wern't there misbehavers protesting their captivity ?? What, specifically, made the Seed less harsh than str8 ?? How is it that so many Seedlings(not all, i know) seem to have some kind of gratitude for their program, when so many Str8lings are so bitter and scarred ?? i know i am askin' alot of questions, and some may be unanswerable, but the more understandin' i have the more peace i find. Thanx.
Peace.
Antigen:
Lauderdale, you're right. My biggest problem w/ The Seed and all the rest of the Synanon based programs is what they do to families. It's the same old scam as any other cult; they market to people who are in distress to the point of desperation and they make slaves of them.
I wish I had some voids in my life. Maybe when this littlest one gets a little older. But, of course, by then I'll probably have added "grandma" to my collection of hats.
I do have a sustained and avid interest in the topic of coerced thought reform. The primary impetus driving that interest has to do with how the industry effects the world my kids and, eventually, grand kids will inherit from us.
John, thanks for posting again and for being as straight about it as you can. Forgiveness is devine. Forgetfulness is just a mental dysfunction.
Jails and prisons are the complement of schools; so many less as you have of the latter, so many more you must have of the former
--Horace Mann
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Seed Chicklett `71 - `80
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Anonymous:
I went into the Seed involuntarily and I am grateful I did. I knew I needed help desperately but would never have gotten it if not for the Seed. All of my family had been in institutions and had problems. I was definately on my way there.
I never had anyone treat me badly. I was only treated w/ love and compassion. Maybe I feel different about it because I needed the help where some like Greg felt he did not need the help. I can only speak for the Seed in Ft. Lauderdale. I don't know how the other Seeds were.
And as far as family's - my mother was very vengeful and hated the Seed with a passion. They never told me to have nothing to do with her. Even when she was on her dying bed they wanted me to do the whatever I could for her. And you know what - She told me she was glad that I went into the Seed and that it changed my life for the best. She made everything right between us before she left.
As I said before I dearly loved the Seed with all my heart and wanted to be there through all of the years.
Antigen - you must speak for yourself. I know you did not go to the Seed and maybe Straight messed you up but not all of us feel the way you do. I am not blind and know how I feel in my heart. It always tells me the truth.
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