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The Seed compared to Str8
starry-eyed pirate:
i am wonderin' about some of the differences between the Seed and Str8. Like on that "How many made it" thread this cat, Stripe says he graduated from the Seed in the "requisite 90 days". Was the Seed only a 90 day program ?? If so howcome so many Seedlings seemed to spend years in the program ?? Is this because they went on to become staff members or what ?? The avg. length of a program at Str8 was 12 months.
i don't know but i have the feelin' that The Seed was in some ways, somehow less harsh than Str8. Did the Seed and Str8 share all the same rules ?? Were there "misbahavers" at the Seed and if so how were they dealt with ?? Were they put on consequences like military showers and sleep deprivation(only 3 hrs. of sleep per night) ?? Did the Seed have 5 phases like Str8 ??
At Str8 newcomers were in group every day. Mon. Tues. Thurs. and Sat. newcomers were in group for about 12 hrs. On Sundays newcomers could sleep in a little and there was usually a good and hearty breakfast at the host-home. On Sundays the building didn't open until like 2p.m. On Wednesdays we were dismissed from the building by 8p.m. which was earlier than the rest of the week, and there would usually be a nice dinner upon arrival at the host-home. Was the Seed organized in a simillar way ??
i am just trying to see how Str8 evolved out of the Seed. What were the simillarities ?? What were the differences ?? How is it that the Seed seems to have been a friendlier place ??
i know i am asking a lot of questions but i am struggelin' to understand what happened to me in Str8. Any insight that anyone can provide is an immense help to me. i thank you in advance.
Peace.
Anonymous:
In the last 10 or so years it was from 10am to 5:00pm. No sleep deprivation at all ever or food depravation. :grin: Everyone that I ever knew gained anywhere from 20 to 30 lbs. No Sat or Sun. Beach, Vollyball, Softball, Football and Golf Movies ect. Sat & Sun. Years ago the Seed went 10 till 10 then 10 till 8 then 10 till about 5. When the numbers (Of people on the program) were not as many the times changed. The basic rules were probably the same, I think. :grin:
Anonymous:
What are military Showers?
starry-eyed pirate:
--- Quote ---On 2005-08-31 12:28:00, Anonymous wrote:
"What are military Showers?"
--- End quote ---
Military showers were one of the many consequences given to misbehavers; 30 seconds with the water on, 30 seconds to soap up and then 30 seconds to rinse and that was it.
Were there ever any misbehavers in the Seed ?? Were clients held there by force ??
Anonymous:
I'm another Anon, but there were no Military Showers. From what I have read about Straight it sounded different in alot of ways. I am glad I did not go there. I really liked my time at the Seed and spent most of my life there until it closed. For me I felt like everytime I went there I learned alot and grew so much as a person. I know not everyone felt as I did but I truly loved the Seed and still treasure my memories. Unfortunately, a few people had to destroy what I feel was truly beautiful. I know it was not perfect but I feel the good outweighted the bad. It was just some people that I think thought they were better than everyone else and I feel money became as issue and selfishness. That's my opinion.
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