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JaLong:
Ginger, Who is the DFAF and DPNA? I'd really would like to know. I agree our government has blood all over it's hands all over the world. It makes me sick. I was not scolding you. I was  asking you some questions. I have no anamosity towards you at all. It just feels to "me", whenever someone replies to one of your posts, you try to blast them out of the water. I don't even know you, just your posts. Were you in the St.Pete seed? Again, as my letter back to Marc said, if I have offended you in any way I apologize, and ask your forgiveness.

Antigen:
JaLong, as long as you have been discussing these issues w/ ppl in these forums, I'm guessing you'd know very well who DFAF is by now if you wanted to. But, in case anyone else reading, now or in futre, wants to look into it, here's a good start.

http://thestraights.com/articles/dpna.htm

Essentially, "Plan Colombia" is an American war effort pursued on the pretext of waging the war on drugs. The founders of Straight, Inc. and past funders, friends and supporters of The Seed are in it up to their eyebrows. Their connections go all the way to the White House, latterally throughout the intelligence community and all the way back to the `70's.

If former Seedlings and Straightlings don't know what our lunatic captors are doing w/ our money, our national reputation, our young brave soldiers and our taxes these days, then I would suggest that it's worth your time and trouble to look into it a little bit. We all who sat in group and know firsthand how crazy and how thorougly deluded these people are have an obligation to raise a hew and cry about it. These people should never have been trusted to care for teenagers, never mind to make international policy and order soldires around!

But this is far from demonstrating that the authorities must interpose to suppress these vices by commercial prohibitions, nor is it by any means evident that such intervention on the part of the government is really capable of suppressing them or that, even if this end could be attained, it might not therewith open up a Pandora's box of other dangers, no less mischievous than alcoholism and morphinism.
Ludwig Von Mises
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Anonymous:
I noticed in the linked article that S.O.S. is a Betty Sembler Foundation.  Is this the same S.O.S. that posted the web page Marshall cited on cult-like rehab programs, offering S.O.S. as a non-coercive alternative?

Antigen:
No, Betty's SOS is Save Our Society from Drugs. It's mission statement is all about opposing medical marijuana inits and legislative efforts on the state and federal levels.

Experience is that marvelous thing that enables you recognize a mistake when you make it again.
-- F. P. Jones
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marshall:
Is your group a cult? From the sos website:

 Points to look out for in your group members:

Emotional overreaction when the group or leader is criticized. Seen as evil persecution
Demonization of former members or members of alternative groups

Cult Leaders
Points to look out for in your group leader:

Authoritarian approach and intolerance of questioning or criticism.
Lies about and insults opponents.
Leader regularly accuses dissatisfied members who leave of having something wrong with them, having personality disorders or being transgressor and deserters.
The group/leader is always right and followers never feel they can be "good enough".

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