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Anonymous:
Sorry about that!  I spelled Nihilanthic's name incorrectly.

Nihilanthic:
Anon, its NIHILANTHIC. Its from NIHILANTH, a character from a videogame. Im no Nihilist. BTW, learn to READ. Besides, you reek of the average forum troll, but whatever.

Anyway, yeah, Im emotional. I just saw children sobbing their eyes out on TV and ABC making it into  a spectacle. Do you expect me to be happy about it? People have emotions, and people tend to share them.

Now, anyway, regarding critical thinking - as compared to whom? Someone who blindly followed what the program dogma and believes all criticsm is 'lying manipulation'? I've been on here for over a year and when the industry spews the same dogmatic sort of counter-criticism against anyone who speaks against them to discredit ANY grievance against a program, it kind of gets on my nerves!

BTW, you speak of evidence... hello? WATCH THE SHOW. Look up the definition of 'coersion' and 'psychological regression' and 'manipulation'. Put two and two together, they manipulated those children and all Ive seen the whole time on the show is instigating them to have a regression! It was nothing but pushing them emotionally, physically, psychologically and otherwise with physical and emotional stress.

That girl crying her eyes out being lowered down a cliff and her subsequent TOTAL breakdown around the campfire is 'psychological regression" almost by textbook definition. And brainwashing, that is, controlling their situation and circumstances, controlling stimulus, controlling affection and pain, and instigating the braekdowns, is what I saw on TV over these past few weeks.

You saw the show, you see anything to dispute that? Were we not watching the smae thing? If you expect completely civil discussion when the topic is "ABC exploiting traumatized teenagers".

FWIW, no need to apologize, though, Im used to much more venomous insults from people here on this forum. You also wont ever make me as mad as "one who cares" has.
All we ask is to be let alone.
-- Jefferson Davis (1808-1889): First Message to the Confederate Congress, March,1861.

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Nihilanthic:

--- Quote ---On 2005-08-03 19:54:00, Anonymous wrote:

"wilderness is the jump-start to the therapeutic process. much more work is needed after the wilderness program which is why most of the kids (really all) need to go on to a residential school with therapy.  It has taken years for these kids and families to get where they are. At least at wilderness they begin to realize their own role in where they are and how their thinking is flawed.  This is what Nihil says is brainwashing. The kids aren't being beaten, but it does take drastic measures to move them off of where they have been for many years. "

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HELLO? Earth to anonymous! The damned dictionary and any professional in the field of psychology would agree. It is BY DEFINITION! So sorry your spin upon it or the fact that its per your approval right now doesnt change that it is what it is and thats all that it is, baghead.

BTW, saying "they aren't being beaten physically, but it takes drastic measures" to excuse maltreatment and abusve by other, non beating means doesnt work when theres something like me around to call shenanigans on that excuse. Nothing excuses using psychological regression and taking advantage of their sensitized state to change their thinking and implant ideas through suggestion (which is brainwashing by definition, again, maybe if I keep repeating it you'll read it this time? :roll: ) and trying to call it therapy.

Its not therapy. Its weakening them, taking advantage of the weakness, and just brainwashing them to act like you want and calling it actual therapy, and be damned if its traumatic, abusive, or it wears off a few years after theyre gone.
I have always thought that all men should be free; but if any should be slaves, it should be first those who desire it for themselves, and secondly those who desire it for others.  Whenever I hear anyone arguing for slavery, I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally.

--Abraham Lincoln
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AtomicAnt:

--- Quote ---On 2005-08-03 19:13:00, Anonymous wrote:

"they werent brainwashed- some manipulation is part of therapy and so is regression.  look how powerful they all were (except Jada) on the other side of the solos.  it helped them turn the corner.  the therapists did a great job"

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Yes, they turned a corner. They all learned that when they use the phrase "...time to reflect..." they score with the program.

They all learned many new cliches and slogans and how to use them to convince idiot counselors and parents that they are growing and changing. They all learned that learning slogans and cliches will help them in life. Wait and see what happens when they grow up and figure out how worthless cliches and slogans are.

Anonymous:
fake it 'til you make it!  :grin:

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