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The official solo day episode thread.

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Nihilanthic:

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On 2005-08-03 20:18:00, Anonymous wrote:

"fake it 'til you make it!  :wstupid:
The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty.
-- John Adams, (1772)

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AtomicAnt:

--- Quote ---On 2005-08-03 19:29:00, Anonymous wrote:

"you really are having trouble admitting that Sagewalk is helping some of these kids.  any positive outcomes and you howl BRAINWASHED.  the problem is that what they are learning is hard to retain if they get back into their old lives. that's why they go to boarding school so they dont slip back"

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It's hard to retain it because it isn't real. Boarding School may extend the fantasy longer, but it still isn't real and eventually, these kids will have to deal with the real world and the slogans and cliches (and listing bow drilling on their resume) will not get them jobs or assist them in real relationships (which they are not permitted to have), or make real decisions (which they are not allowed to do). Isolating someone from life can never teach them how to live.

Anonymous:
as long as you know it's all useless while you're in it, you're probably gonna be alright.  It's the kids that buy into it because they're desprate for the support (or so afriad of the punishment) that are gonna have a hard time when the realize that real life is what you make it, not what other people tell you to you have to make it.  The programs made me into such a good actress, I even starred in a couple of plays after I got out. ;-D

AtomicAnt:

--- Quote ---On 2005-08-03 19:54:00, Anonymous wrote:

"wilderness is the jump-start to the therapeutic process. much more work is needed after the wilderness program which is why most of the kids (really all) need to go on to a residential school with therapy.  It has taken years for these kids and families to get where they are. At least at wilderness they begin to realize their own role in where they are and how their thinking is flawed.  This is what Nihil says is brainwashing. The kids aren't being beaten, but it does take drastic measures to move them off of where they have been for many years. "

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I guess you are the expert, diagnosing all of these kids' needs. Your entire post is nothing more than a marketing tag line. The show gave absolutely no rational justification why Heather needs to go to a boarding school. She seems to have no psychological disorder except that her parents are such idiots that she likes to run away from them.

Heather misses her friends, therefore she should be kept from them. I miss food, I'm hungry, therefore I should not eat? Doesn't anyone study simple logic anymore?

Nihilanthic:
Arbeit Macht Frei!
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniencies attending too much
liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.

--Thomas Jefferson, 1791, in a letter to Archibald Stuart
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[ This Message was edited by: Nihilanthic on 2005-08-03 20:39 ]

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