Author Topic: Carlbrook (Read 556506 times)

Anonymous · « **Reply #1425 on:** November 08, 2006, 09:20:56 AM »

my friend was abused at Carlbrook.. and he said any parent who sends their kid there is an idiot and deserves to be locked up in jail.. his words not mine. steer clear of this shithole!!!!

Anonymous · « **Reply #1426 on:** November 08, 2006, 04:37:03 PM »

Hey "Just Me," you sound like you are either a Carlbrook student, former student or staff there. I hope you are a foreigner and are still learning English as a second language. I try not to be disrespectful of others and I'm sure you are a nice person, but if you are a native-born American and your written language skills are indicative of the quality of Carlbrook academics, then it is even more clear to me that parents are being ripped off when they send their children to this so-called "school."

Anonymous · « **Reply #1427 on:** November 08, 2006, 05:22:37 PM »

When people complain that it's a TBS they say no, it's a college prep school. Then when you point out the academics, or lack thereof, you're told it's a 'progressive', 'work at your own pace' school. If academics are the true and sole reason for Carlbrook, why all the discrepancy about the actual education the kids do or do not receive?

Anonymous · « **Reply #1428 on:** November 09, 2006, 04:18:03 AM »

okay... you never went to the school, so stop talking about abuse. I spent a decent amount of time there. I am out now, for over a year, I don't do drugs, and have not traded in my "drug of choice" for other unhealthy behaviors.

The thing about Carlbrook that a lot of the kids do not see, is you are handed life long skills. You can Choose to use them or not, but for some these skills get taken for granted or forgotten. Its not the schools fault...

I do believe some of the people that work at the school should not be there, but they don't really show up to to many groups anyways.

its not abusive, and these accusations should stop. Again it can tarnish a reputaion for a life time...

though this school, as life should always be anyways, is about SECOND, AND THIRD AND FOURTH chances....

Constuctive feedback, is better than trying to slander someone, or a school
but basically I am sorry, I am just getting frusterated.... because if you want to change, and you take the tools you learned from this school, you will find ways to live your life successfully...

I am 19... don't use drugs, drink and go to parties on occasion, have a great time with my family and friends, and am not afraid of being myself.... work, have recently purchased my own condo, and work my ass off. but I would not have been able to do it with out carlbrook.

its a hard school, but if you take what you learn and use it. its worth it....

Covergaard · « **Reply #1429 on:** November 09, 2006, 05:07:39 AM »

... as you say: People can not change if they don't want to change.

If the school worked out of the good for these children, they should be quick and inform the parents that their child is not working with system. If they fail to inform the parents, they are in the business for the money alone.

In such cases the kid would be better of in another place. If that poor choice lead up to the child being put in a prison at somepoint that would even be better than keeping the child in school.

"People can not change if they do not recognize the problem."

That is the basic term and you acknowledge it.

According to my experience (And I have been visiting even the most harshes prisons in Denmark as a part of my profession) most children gets over alcohol and sex as phase in their life. We prefer they do it when they are about 15 to 16 years old, so they at least can avoid drinking and driving. (You have to 18 years old to drive a car in Denmark.)

Most parents would just have to wait until their child is over that phase or even better - they could turn up where their child is drinking and join in for a beer to show the child that alcohol comsumption is possible without getting drunk beyound control.

That leaves drug. That is not fixed by attending a school. We are talking a sickness here. That means treatment in a hospital environment.

So in order to cut it short: There would be no critizm if Carlbrook did return to the parents of an unadjustable child after a month and told them that this does not work and the child has to return home.

Also they would be off better if they instead of using escort firms did send people out to a marathon intervension with the child in the childs home, so they by an verbal argumentation could convince the child of the need for a stay in this school. A simple letter from a emotional distant parent on the way to the school is not enough to ensure love and compassion to the child.

I can see that there is room for improvement - even at Carlbrook.

Anonymous · « **Reply #1430 on:** November 09, 2006, 12:48:28 PM »

Carlbrook kids do not necessarily arrive by escort. And, kids are asked to leave if it is not working.

Anonymous · « **Reply #1431 on:** November 09, 2006, 01:20:15 PM »

I work in this industry and meet many parents of troubled teens and I cannot count the amount of times I've heard similar negative experiences from other families. Stay away from this place -- it's bad news.

Troll Control · « **Reply #1432 on:** November 09, 2006, 02:12:59 PM »

Quote from: ""Guest""

When people complain that it's a TBS they say no, it's a college prep school. Then when you point out the academics, or lack thereof, you're told it's a 'progressive', 'work at your own pace' school. If academics are the true and sole reason for Carlbrook, why all the discrepancy about the actual education the kids do or do not receive?

This is the typical spin. Welcomr to "The Industry." This type of language/semantics is what they use to avoid proper oversight - look at HLA and Ivy Ridge. Carlbrook is in the same boat and will eventually (inevitably) be licensed properly or shut down, but these places know this going in and set up their businesses to make as much profit as the market will bear ASAP and fold up their tents when they are legally required to have oversight.

They use a skimming startegy and market penetration to be immediately profitable, and when they're eventually (inevitably) sued, they have no real assets and declare bankruptcy. Then they move to a new area and start the scam over again.

This is just the way it is in this business. I've been around it for a long time and Carlbrook, I assure you, is nothing new. Their staff has bounced around the industry for twenty or more years, going from facility to facility, being shut down or sued for abuse all along the way. It's the same principals just moving around from warehouse to warehouse as legal pressure and the law dictates. They will NEVER comply with the law - they'll just move again.

Anonymous · « **Reply #1433 on:** November 12, 2006, 04:48:05 PM »

If you want to know about carlbrook as a parent, you should tour the school, ask an ed consultant. Obviously it is not for everyone. Honestly you all sound like the group of students who go to carlbrook, hate it, did not get it, fucked around, got kicked out and are now pissing all over the institution online. Go you.

Anonymous · « **Reply #1434 on:** November 13, 2006, 08:37:46 AM »

Quote from: ""Guest""

If you want to know about carlbrook as a parent, you should tour the school, ask an ed consultant.

If you tour the school, you will get the "Marketing demo," not a genuine look at what goes on.

And why would you ask an ed consultant about anything?

That's like asking a pedophile for advice on how to keep young children safe from perverts.

Anonymous · « **Reply #1435 on:** November 13, 2006, 09:41:35 AM »

Quote from: ""Guest""

Obviously it is not for everyone.

Well at least you know it's obvious. :rofl:

Troll Control · « **Reply #1436 on:** November 13, 2006, 11:35:31 AM »

Quote from: ""Guest""

Quote from: ""Guest""
If you want to know about carlbrook as a parent, you should tour the school, ask an ed consultant.

If you tour the school, you will get the "Marketing demo," not a genuine look at what goes on.

And why would you ask an ed consultant about anything?

That's like asking a pedophile for advice on how to keep young children safe from perverts.

Very true on all counts.

CBButterflyDA · « **Reply #1437 on:** December 04, 2006, 10:33:07 AM »

I would just like to say that, despite any awful things that anyone has to say about the Carlbrook School, THEY HAVE NOT BEEN THERE. They may have had kids that went there, or friends with kids that went there- but THEY may not have experienced it THEMSELVES!
I enrolled in Carlbrook in October 2004- The school had been open almost 9 months and I was student #52. The next19 months saved my life. Everything from the close and personal attention from faculty to the amazing relationships that I developed helped me transform from the out-of-control, depressed little girl that I was (at 15) to the sober, responsible, motivated woman that I am now. I highly HIGHLY recommend Carlbrook for kids ages 15-18 who just seem lost in the world. Either they have been hurting themselves, have no social decency, don't listen to their parents, or just don't seem to be happy with anything that is given to them. The "emotional growth" aspect of this school is mainly what I miss the most. Some of the greatest moments of my life are those in the groups, workshops, or at random times when I made a connection with someone. I love Carlbrook and am COMPLETLEY willing to talk to ANYONE who has any questions. Also, please listen to whatever else you hear about Carlbrook very carefully. It is important to hear from the people who know- those who were there and graduated the program............

CBButterflyDA · « **Reply #1438 on:** December 04, 2006, 10:37:59 AM »

Quote from: ""Guest""

yep, sure sounds like a school to me. only at this school, the teachers and faculty are responsible for officially torturing and abusing kids instead of other kids doing it on an ad hoc basis.

this "teacher" is a troll and full of shit.

WHAT IS EVERYONE'S PROBLEM??? IF THIS SCHOOL IS HELPING PEOPLE, WHY QUESTION IT?? I HAPPEN TO HAVE BEEN TO THIS SCHOOL, AND I KNOW THIS TEACHER PERSONALLY...... FIND SOMETHING ELSE TO SPEND YOUR TIME DOING BECAUSE I'M SICK OF HEARING FROM PEOPLE WHO FRANKLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT!!!

CBButterflyDA · « **Reply #1439 on:** December 04, 2006, 10:39:03 AM »

Quote from: ""Guest""

Quote from: ""Kiwifella""
For anyone who was there when I bailed, I do have a really soft spot for all of you, and I'm sorry about how I left. My B.
Sturge

Oh Ben, I miss you and I really wish you had stuck it out!!!

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