Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Brat Camp
Typical Day at Sagewalk
OverLordd:
::shrugs:: hey sorry, dont mean to offend. I dont know if you keep them busy at all time, or dont let them talk or what not, as some programs do. Sorry, I just did not know.
Shortbus:
Im not offended. Students have a full day, when living outside there is never a lack of things to do and tasks that need completing. I dont allow students to have private one on one talks. I dont think any wilderness program allows that. If you cant say something in front of the group then it probably doesnt need to be said. This policy is for the safety of students and instructors. So I guess if students want to plot and scheme amongst themselves they have to be creative. But if a student dislikes being there that much Id rather they had a plan and followed through instead of inflicting themselves on me.
Antigen:
But.....
--- Quote ---On 2005-08-23 16:55:00, Shortbus wrote:
"Of course they were. I have no reason to deny someone the opportunity to use forethought or be organized. Those are two valuable skills I'd like to see practiced more often."
--- End quote ---
Which is it?
G: "If we do happen to step on a mine, Sir, what do we do?"
EB: "Normal procedure, Lieutenant, is to jump 200 feet in the air and scatter oneself over a wide area."
-- Somewhere in No Man's Land, BA4
--- End quote ---
Shortbus:
Good point, I think I know what youre getting at.... Im pretty open with my students and I tell them up front that Ill respect their decision to take off but I want to make sure they are safe. That means having a plan and being prepared. They just arent going to have much opportunity to go behind my back and plan. If Im in the mix more than they like thats just too bad since its my show! No different than homelife. I keep my students busy and I spend a lot of time actively engaged with them. I dont like surprises when Im responsible for someone.
Thats a great quote attached to the above post!
Anonymous:
You are at a real disadvantage when placed in a program. You are up against a group of semi-intelligent adults, who have a LOT of experience at keeping young adults in line. They are great at using manipulation to control the situation.
They try mostly to use the other kids as leverage. If one, two, or several kids in the group are at a 'higher level' of achievement, they don't want to risk getting in trouble. Just like real life. New people are more than willing to misbehave, what do they have to lose? Kids who have been there for a long time and realize they aren't leaving until they comply, WILL keep the other kids in line.
Most places have rules against new kids talking to each other, allowing you to only talk to the high achievers or whatever they call them.
Brat camp is strange to me because it is mixed sexes, and the ages vary so widely. The place I was at was a lockdwon facility, so I would have loved to be out in the wilderness, and to have girls would have been a plus as well. I would have been more concerned with nailing one of them than running away.
The fact that you, a counselor, say you wouldn't stop a kid from running is hard to believe. AM I understanding that statement correctly? :wave:
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