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dougm:
I understand I was put in a program for a medical reason. I had seen my family doctor before and I described my symptoms and what not, I looked up the symptoms online and suggested a thyroid problem. He checked it just to humor I suppose but didn't suspect anything more than just perhaps "growing up".  So it wasn't as if it was just neglect by the counselors, I was seen by a doctor about my symptoms, then received another physical (blood was not taken, however) before I went to SW. The counselors are not to blame for not diagnosing me. My case was also extremely uncommon that I didn't develop my Type 1 until the teenage years. Most people are diagnosed as young kids.

As for suing, it seems this site revolves on empty threats of legal action. But if I were to hypothetically sue SW for negligence, what would I sue for? Monetary compensation? haha. Or even better, how about suing my parents? The people who didn't spoil me despite having the means to do so. The people who spent hours upon hours attempting to get me the help I needed, regardless if it was in vain.  

I understood that my actions warranted my parents sending me there. I know that the parents have problems too, but for the likes of me, I still cannot understand how *all* the focus is on the fault of the parents, and none of the children. Are they/we not to be held responsible for our actions anymore?

Anonymous:

--- Quote ---On 2005-07-25 17:13:00, dougm wrote:

"I understand I was put in a program for a medical reason. I had seen my family doctor before and I described my symptoms and what not, I looked up the symptoms online and suggested a thyroid problem. He checked it just to humor I suppose but didn't suspect anything more than just perhaps "growing up".  So it wasn't as if it was just neglect by the counselors, I was seen by a doctor about my symptoms, then received another physical (blood was not taken, however) before I went to SW. The counselors are not to blame for not diagnosing me. My case was also extremely uncommon that I didn't develop my Type 1 until the teenage years. Most people are diagnosed as young kids.



As for suing, it seems this site revolves on empty threats of legal action. But if I were to hypothetically sue SW for negligence, what would I sue for? Monetary compensation? haha. Or even better, how about suing my parents? The people who didn't spoil me despite having the means to do so. The people who spent hours upon hours attempting to get me the help I needed, regardless if it was in vain.  



I understood that my actions warranted my parents sending me there. I know that the parents have problems too, but for the likes of me, I still cannot understand how *all* the focus is on the fault of the parents, and none of the children. Are they/we not to be held responsible for our actions anymore?"

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I really do appreciate your posts here, you seem very level-headed and reasonable. However...a few things stand out to me. You yourself believed that something medical was wrong with you. You looked it up and had a better idea what was wrong with you than either your doctor or counselor. Does that not strike you as odd? And why would your doctor just "humor" you? I would think he should have taken it very seriously. And was nobody listening to what you were trying to say or tell them? You believed so much that something was wrong you looked up all the symptoms and did research yourself. But then it seems you and others doubted your own experience of what was truly wrong. That is a problem when talking about professionals.

As far as suing goes, understand that would be your choice. If it was me, and I thought it was an honest mistake, I probably wouldn't be interested in suing. But if I thought it was negligence bordering on maliciousness, I might feel differently. What would you sue for? That would depend on you too. I would sue just to let others know that the place wasn't all it claimed to be, and to potentially save someone from going through what I did.

dougm:
I believed something was wrong with me, but I trusted the doctor. I don't blame the doctor either, the only real symptoms that I described was my weight loss and chronic tiredness. But I was still able to function at some level, so the doctor probably believed my symptoms were not anything serious. Had I described that I was also eating and drinking like a horse (2 gallons of fluid a day, constant urination, lots and lots of food), he probably could've made some sort of diagnosis, but my failure to put two and two together equates to me shooting myself in the foot. Also saying the doctor was "humoring" me was an exagerration. I asked him "Could it be Hyper/Hypothyroidism?" and he listed the symptoms, half of which fit, so I said, "well, kinda". He, then, checked my thyroid by pressing on my throat, didn't find anything out of the ordinary. To my credit, I had the right idea with something being wrong with my endocrine system :grin:

With the suing, I just don't believe in suing. It's part me being anti-lawyer and part me not seeing how I could possibly benefit for any other reason than greed.

Anonymous:
What did you end up doing for the hyperthyroidism? I was also diagnosed with that when in a psychiatric hospital once, and even went to see an endo doc, but his talk of radiation and stuff scared me off. I just choose to live with it. I am curious if anything you have done has helped. I am being completely serious, program opinions aside, I am just curious. Thanks.

Anonymous:
Wilderness Therapy SHOULD BE VOLUNTARY like REAL THERAPY.

Funny how many Stepfordish program parents and kids swear they "tried everything" except family therapy before resorting to sending the kid away for some expensive "accountability".

It's a racket, Doug.

Face it.  Therapy in the Woods for $20k?

Get Real!

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