Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Troubled Teen Industry
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Nihilanthic:
Just wanna butt in here edgewise...
--- Quote ---"And how did you make the flying leap to isolating the kid? or a psychiatric emergency? I never came CLOSE to saying anything like that. I believe if you READ my post, you will see I said "therapy, counseling, or whatever is needed to help the child"."
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Its TERRIBLY hard to tell the bagheads apart. I was assuming you were one of "program for everything" types, but even still, going to get some doc to push pills and force or pressure for 'therapy' isn't always the right thing to do.
And yes, program = isolation, and acting like its a psychiatric emergency and ironically creating one as part of the therapy.
Anyway... spending time, giving attention and affection, and making them feel good (wow, loving them, what a concept!) does just fine on its own. When I see parents talking about things they want for their kid and what is with their kid it reeks of someone ordering something at Burger King. "Oh yeah I'll have some self esteem w/ extra structure, emotional growth, achievement, excellence, aaaand special sauce".
Its THOSE types who I was LEAPING to conclusions at - because its REAL HARD to tell an anon from another anon if they dont even sign their posts with some tag at the end! You can get a name and still be anon, and we could distinguish you from the masses of asses out there. And yeah, they would throw their kid up somewhere to get the laundry-list of warm and fuzzy teen help industry buzzwords done to their kid and act like "self esteem" and "being pushed to excellence" are worthy reasons to incarcerate a child.
So, I apologize for misunderstanding... but I still think the first thing that mom should do is take the kid out and be a freaking mother and talk before LEAPING and putting her child with total strangers herself.
And PLEASE REGISTER! Ginger already knows your ip addresses, we never will, but we could still distinguish you from the other anons.
Hear me people: We now have to deal with another race - small and feeble when our fathers first met them, but now great and overbearing. Strangely enough they have a mind to till the soil and the love of possessions is a disease with them. These people have made many rules which the rich may break but the poor may not. They take their tithes from the poor and weak to support the rich and those who rule.
Chief Sitting Bull, speaking at the Powder River Conference, 1877
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Nihilanthic:
--- Quote ---On 2005-10-02 09:12:00, Three Springs Waygookin wrote:
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Do you know anything good or bad about Auldern Academy. I need a good, very structured girls boarding school for my daughter, I need a place that she will succeed and be monitored and her have good wholesome fur while meeting some self esteem issues and being encouraged to excellence. Help Lacey
You came to the conclusion that it was all a set up to start trouble based on these two grammatically incorrect sentences? Well two sentences, and a sentence fragment, but who is counting? Well techinically I am I suppose, but back to the orginal point that somehow you could just read this post and see a troll in the in disguise? The terminology would somehow lead you to believe that this is a troll?
What even based on the above information provided qualifies you to give the advice to take the kid out for ice cream? Where is the kid's medical history hidden in that post that would indicate you could summarily dismiss the poster's posted intentions to gain information on a safe placement for his/her child? Is is in the grammar, or is it in the font? Maybe just maybe its the mispelling of fun that helped you play Mr. FBI man and come up with a full profile of this dastardly bad bloke!
Perhaps your just full of shit, and you should give the person the benifit of the doubt next time, or look a little closer and you will see what you missed.
Myself I will stick with the Turkish Style Taco. I had one today in Itaewon the sleaziest part of Korea I have been to so far, but the food was excellent. However, I do believe I am going to have to get a blood test from contracting some wierd STD from just sitting on a stool. :cry2:
Our country right or wrong. When right, to be kept right; when wrong, to be put right.
--Carl Schurz, German-born U.S. general and U.S. senator
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TSW, *WHAT* regular white-bread mini-van driving mom uses the vocabulary and terminology that anon poster did? Seriously, who the fuck do you know who talks that way?
--- Quote ---Do you know anything good or bad about Auldern Academy. I need a good, very structured girls boarding school for my daughter, I need a place that she will succeed and be monitored and her have good wholesome fur while meeting some self esteem issues and being encouraged to excellence. Help Lacey
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Am I alone here in thinking that sounds like hot-buttons and buzzwords out of a seminar or "words of the day" for the WWASPS sales department?
Also, me going after "good wholesome fur" was me being a jackass. I dont really give a shit about mispeeling and bad grammer, but if I already think the person is trolling, a lawyer, someone from the program, etc then Im going to be less likely to contain myself.
There might be a chance she just talks weird, or was already in one of those madhouses as a child, or read a brocure and picked up the lingo, or whatever. It just felt very, very fishy and trollish.
Also, you might want to wear a dental-dam under your undies when you sit youre in some of the sleazy parts of down, or maybe some depends for adults? I THINK its waterproof, at least, and it could help with crotch-sweat if its real hot :wink:
Sometimes I lie awake at night, and I ask, "Where have I gone wrong?" Then a voice says to me, "This is going to take more than one night."
-- Charlie Brown, _Peanuts_ [Charles Schulz]
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Nihilanthic:
For one, if I think someone is missing something, I at least state what it is.
For two, I DONT THINK ITS ACTUALLY A PARENT! I acted this way in the first place thinking it wasnt an actual parent, it wasnt my justification after the fact it was my REASON before I did it.
For THREE, if it IS a parent, what I'd suggest NOT KNOWING A DAMN THING (because she didnt SHARE anything) is to try to actually do something with the child her damn self and be a parent, because the only thing a program salesperson is going to say is "You have to send your child to us or they'll be deadinsaineorinjaaaaail"
You find me ONE program, ONE program that would ever say "nothing is wrong with your kid, shut up, get some help for your hypocondriac-by-proxy ass and give lil' Bobby a cookie" and I'll buy you a beer. The closest to that Ive EVER seen is a program stating theyre not a treatment center, and arent prepared/liable for certain meds, psychiatric shit, drug/detox, violence, etc, to cover their own ass should a parent ask why their child wasn't treated for it.
BTW, she wasn't asking for what you did, wilderness crap (with you there to prevent it from turning into another Paradice cove), she was suggesting a "structured boarding school" which could be juuust like Cross fuckin' Creek for all we know, and we dont even know that the child has any problems to begin with, just that the parent wants it for her kid.
So, wheres your standpoint? Whats this amazing hidden point that Im not seeing, PLEASE enlighten me! No there arent any black helicopters but the ONLY thing I can do is assume because like most Struggling PARENTS they say vague unsubstantiated shit themselves as justification for vague, unsubstantiated 'treatment' of their children, with a vauge, unsubstantiated goal (of making money as the ulterior one).
When she comes by and actually shares this herself, we'll see what this is a case of. But I think we wont be seeing her again, or shes gone to strugglingteens to be told by the stepford retards that you have to give your child over to strangers bla bla fuckin' blah.
Ministers say that they teach charity. That is natural. They live on hand-outs. All beggars teach that others should give.
--Robert G. Ingersoll, American politician and lecturer
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[ This Message was edited by: Nihilanthic on 2005-10-02 09:53 ]
Anonymous:
"Oh mommy - nobody likes me cause I'm stupid and ugly and fat"
"There, there Sally darling, it's ok. You are uglier than dirt, so we'll go take you to get a makeover!
Oh - and I think an ice cream would help. But you are such a fat ass, maybe we should stop at the salad bar instead"
Brilliant! I certainly hope you don't have kids or you grow up a little before you do.
Nihilanthic:
--- Quote ---On 2005-10-02 10:06:00, Anonymous wrote:
""Oh mommy - nobody likes me cause I'm stupid and ugly and fat"
"There, there Sally darling, it's ok. You are uglier than dirt, so we'll go take you to get a makeover!
Oh - and I think an ice cream would help. But you are such a fat ass, maybe we should stop at the salad bar instead"
Brilliant! I certainly hope you don't have kids or you grow up a little before you do.
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Brilliant! Your inductive logic and the implication I was trying to give are non-existant and went way over your head, respectively!
Ok, icecream and makeover might not work with someone who is lactose intolerant, vegan, or a fatass. SPIFFY. Some kids might like some things more than makeovers to do for fun, SPIFFY!
The point was to do something the child would really enjoy, because when youre having fun you dont feel so fucking shitty and depresed and forget about what made you feel so bad, and because it gives them a chance to open up and talk. Personally speaking, if I feel bad and a friend of family member or my GF gives me attention I feel better, is everyone else on earth so different?
All the girls I know liked icecream and makeovers... now obviously a guy woudlnt like that unless he was a little fruity... how about a burger joint and a trip to a movie or rent him a video game? Go do mini golf or go-karts? Sports? Sheesh! Use your imagination!
BTW - if you think that fat women dont like to eat icecream or get cosmetic shit done then I suggest you take your ass down to a neighborhood salon and see some of those fat women that are damn fucking in love with their fat asses getting their hair and nails done, and call them ugly as dirt, ok? They're enjoying themselves and feeling good and thats what the whole damn point was.
Maybe they could slap some shit into you or tell you to grow up.
P.S. - how are you both so pedantic and stupid at the same time?
A student burst into his office. "Professor Stigler, I don't believe I deserve this F you've given me." To which Stigler replied, "I agree, but unfortunately it is the lowest grade the University will allow me to award."
--Professor Stigler
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