Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Mission Mountain School
forced child labor camp
katfish:
accredited by who?
katfish:
none of those organizations are accrediting- not in the the therapuetic sense, where peer review is required. Like all scientists, to establish legitimacy and lend not just credibility but verify the methods you use have been researched and are ethical you need accredation through institutions like COA- Council on Accreditation, AEE- Association for Experential Education, CARF Commission on Accreditation of Rehabilitation Facilities, JCAHO Join Commission on Accreditation of Healthcare. MMS is not accredited, only through educational orgs.
They basically hold themselves up to their own standards and those may be as arbitray as they were then...or not. Either way, they are not letting anyone make that determination but themselves, therein lies the problem. They messed with girls heads before and came across as quite legitimate then, certainly it would be foolish to find solice in words like- 'but they are different now'.
I'll be willing to bet a million bucks they still use labor and psysiological stress to break kids down. That is John Mercer's model (of course other schools do the same thing) and I find it highly dubious that will change. He knows no other methods.
Waygookin- you'll get a kick out of this one, did you know that the students did all the paperwork required for accreditation through PNAIS? (welcome relief from the strenuous physical labor, i've heard) and it cost parents how much a day for kids to do this schools work?
LOL and this is therapuetic how? Ladies that were there, what did John or Collee say this was a metaphor for?[ This Message was edited by: katfish on 2005-08-16 19:47 ]
Anonymous:
it's a legit form of therapy... behavioral modification.
katfish:
that has not been sumbitted to peer review- not the way they implement it. Just ask the Phd's. So no, these methods have in fact not been deemed effective, in fact its the opposite- find out for yourself, drop them an e-mail. BM is generally associated with postive reenforcement, from what i've read- not the constant negative/punishment/streefule MMS style treatment. If you e-mail this PhD she will glady give you the facts on forced labor and excersize as punishment, MMS style. She and I have spoken- i assure you, these methods havenot been determined as beneficial and have been documented to cause more problems. Let me know what she says.
http://www.nospank.net/pinto.htm
kat
[ This Message was edited by: katfish on 2005-08-16 22:40 ]
Troll Control:
--- Quote ---On 2005-08-16 20:28:00, Anonymous wrote:
"it's a legit form of therapy... behavioral modification."
--- End quote ---
Wow, all these years I never knew the rats in the Skinner Box were getting therapy. They must be happy, well-adjusted rats. :roll:
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