Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Mission Mountain School
forced child labor camp
katfish:
i guess they've made some improvements, just wasn't the case while i was there- maybe your right, hard to believe, and yet John did serious damage to some girls. I personally would would like to see him out all together. i dont trust John at all, speaking to former staff and my experience, i would doubt highly he would allow much competency among staff if it went against his vision of MMS- like it was while i was there (physiological stress and labor as therapy). Just look at Gary.
i look forward to hearing from girls who are there now, in the future. that's really the only way of knowing the day to day affairs. again, checks need to be in place. things happnened before that were unaccpetqble, nothing will change that fact, including arguing that things are different now. I believe John is guilty of misleading parent and hampering many girls lives, instead of helping them repair the damage, leaving them to do twice as much work to lift themselves up...i have heard this enough to know that its so and its very sad.
great MMS made changes, now we need people to go in and make sure of it, often. and studies done too. let the games begin.
Anonymous:
Anon "who is not an old chap:" is there a LICENSED therapist who leads each and EVERY group session?
IF THERE IS NOT, and if ANY of these Group Session are led by some staff member is IS NOT LICENSED, then SOMETHING IS TERRIBLY WRONG, and a great injustice is being done to each and every girl sitting in on these little group sessions!
That is the bottom line!
Anonymous:
i hope you all are aware that your use of the term 'licensing' is misleading.
The State of Montana does not have any have ANY licensing NOR regulations for these programs, so even if MMS has an MSW or whatever, as they did before with Gary, it is still NOT a licensed facility. These facilities fall into 'substitute care' providers. Legislation, such as fingerprinting and background checks do not apply to these programs. There are no rules that they have to follow.
They can basically do what they want and no parent would be the wiser. There is no data on the effectiveness, etc... Remmeber all those ed cons who spoke so highly of MMS? Appearances can be EXTREMELY deceiving and the kids pay the price.
Regulation would require not only allegations of abuse to be reported, but penalties for not doing so. Allow the state to inspect the site WITHOUT having to wait for allegations of abuse to be reported, parents to visit freely and AT ANY TIME WITHOUT WARNING to ensure their childs safety. Require a screeing process (psychological, etc) and written plan identifiying how will be addressed, and yet John Mercer lobbied against this.
katfish:
that's true and, incidentally, they would also require their methods be subject to peer review through an accredidation program such as COA, AEE, CARF, JCAHO.
This is the most sensible thing I've heard in a loooooooong time.
Anonymous:
yes, a licensed therapist leads EACH and EVERY group session. i've said my peace. and i agree that these programs should be regulated. they ARE accredited though, and go through a very long process to become so, and renew it. i agree that some girls were hurt by the school which is awful and they should somehow be given compensation for that... like all programs, they've changed and developed and are running very smoothly now! haven't had an intervention since '03 either! something's working right.
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