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FEAR ITSELF
marshall:
Wow! Great post, mg. Many of us here understand your anger. I found that a lot of my own was really anger at myself for being so powerless and being duped by the seed so easily. I had to forgive myself. I was just a kid and probably would have fell for the same line of crap from any cultish group. Anyway, thanks. Oh, & that was a great imitation of Yoda meets the Wicked Witch of the West too!
Stripe:
Ginger,
That place I got involved with was in Boca Raton, FL and was called Koininia, agape house. It was run by woman named Paula Carlson, who was apparently fucking the boys and, with the exception of a few trusted females,was undermining every girl or young woman involved. Man, if I actually wrote what when on there, no one would believe me. Man was it ever a sick place. The Paula Carlson woman was such a skank that even her self-righteous thoroughly CHRISTIAN husband divorced her nasty ass. She was another cult guru, albeit, on a very small local level.
MG, Marshall and others:
And as for the succession of failed relationships, I experienced my share of failed or abusive or sick relationships the rest of you have thus-far experienced. Professional diagnosis post-Seed:extreme neuroses and severe depression. Made it hard to function in the real world.
I think the only ting that saved me when I was 25 was the birth of my son. It gave me a real cause to live for, because before that time, I didn't see my life as being of value to any one.
Like the rest of you, over the years, I have worked hard to make my own way in the world and frankly, I am proud as hell of what I have accomplished thus far.
And people say that The Seed was a good place and that those who have experienced a life time of pain, hurt and degredation need to "get over it".
Under the guise of this newage (sewage)sprituality movement we are now told that we somehow allow our past to continue to intrude on the present - that we want this pain, that wwe have some need to continue to relive it.
A person is the sum total of all experiences, good and bad. The lesson I have learned ? That there are some bad, evil fuckers out there whose main purpose in life is to exert control over the free will of innocents. And inevitably, it always follows the almighty dollar. We were not anything more than pawns in a money game to Art, Shelly,Libby, this recently found-out Perloff jerk and all the other fuckers on that syncophant-staff-director train.
This bullshit "sprituality" is just another cult that suggests a very simple way of not acknowledging the abuses that occurred. After all, to acknowledge the mind control would require SEEING IT A SECOND TIME IN THE RECOMMENDED SEWAGE SOLUTION... No fucking thanks. My head has been screwed with enough in this lifetime.
Perhaps it did not happen to some people, but that sure as hell does not negate the fact that it happened to others.
I note that some on the here have referred to themselves as prisoners of war. A very true and accrate statement. Except for our government and the sewage sprituality movement, I doubt any thinking person would tell a prisoner of war to "get over it" ...
Remember the fallen from all wars, including the Drug War.
Best of the day to all you.
MG:
Hi there again.........
I actually do not blame myself at all for what happened to me there. You shouldn't either. I have a grown son and have spent a lot of time around children that were the age we were. They are so completely impressionable.
Why do you think the SEED had an age limit? I believe it was twenty-one with only a few exceptions. I spent Memorial Day taking some photos of a park near me that is a true hazard to children and many of the children playing were about our age. There are drug dealers nearby---blocks away, a year or two older than them. They will either be productive citizens, or drug dealers/addicts these children. They are like an open slate. Art and these other organizations took, and are taking that open slate and making it thier living. Is a child that is molested responsible for the choices that the molester seduces or forces them into making? I don't think so! Definitely not by our laws.....so why is the RAPE of a childs mind acceptable, and how would that child ever be culpable? Hitler turned out youth groups in droves, and turned children against thier own families. Look on eBay at the prices for coveted photos of such! What is so damn different to turn out an army of children to wear your flag to school and march blindly to your tune? He admidately used the children to help campaign for congress. I remember ART saying about Hitler's Military Youth that, "They took young people and played drums and they marched blindly, and did what they are told." What was so different? Let's all sing along.............THE SEED INDEED IS ALL YOU NEED TO STAY OF THE JUNK AND THE PILLS AND THE WEED. WE COME EACH DAY FROM 10 TILL 10, AND THEN WE GET UP AND WE DO IT AGAIN.
You were never to blame!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MG:
ALWAYS FOLLOW THE MONEY
IT TELLS THE STORY BETTER THAN ANYTHING!
GREAT POINT.
Bye the way I knew John when he was just a sweet inoccent guy excited to be reuinted with his freinds and Cindy was just a bubbly little huggy bear.
WHAT A CRYING SHAME!
Capatolistic freeked out cult organizers. Who would have ever guessed. Thank's ART! Beautiful lively souls for capitol gains. Congrats you evil ass piece of garbage. They are culpable now though, being ADULTS?
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