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[Anonymous]

On 2004-08-08 21:01:00, JeffJizz wrote:

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Do you think anon takes it up the ass? How about getting peed on? or even scat? I have a plunger in my bathroom that needs to be put to good use, someone should bring him over by the belt loops. God damn this is going to be a great video. Can I have your money anon? I will even throw in a castration scene.



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[animals all of us]

Anonymous, what beef are you talking about?

I don't like guys, babe.  I likes females.  You heard?  

But to address your deep abiding self-inflicting morbid curiousity which has touched my own self deprecating need to find meaning from people you've never met or hung out with; I really don't have to explain myself to you, Richie, or anyone else unless its doing harm to them somehow.  And even then I will probably avert any mention as to my intentions cos most of the time I don't know them.  

Since you are no doctor or counselor and I don't know you...then I can only hypothesize as to your furtherment of babble.  It's babble; like a brook or a stream of brackish water.  I find it soothing and entertaining, but most of the time I merely pass it in the bathroom when I'm through digesting it.  Peace, niggah.

[Anonymous]

On 2004-08-07 19:53:00, Anonymous wrote:

" As someone who was IN a similar program, many years ago, and benefited from it greatly, I will let you know that most of the posts I've read here are very child-like, vengeful and some authors could pass for mentally ill.   This Bradbury has been an activist for almost 20 years, and what does he have to show for it?  I've never even heard of this "cause" til someone told me about this site last week.  I think most people would think many of you are just a bunch of disgruntled druggies who are still pissed that you were put in a drug program as a teen, and have never willingly accepted any help that you need.  (Kids did not GO to these programs for being a little problematic -- face it).  If you really want to make a difference,  get involved with children organizations that help prevent kids from becoming "troubled teens", or better yet, form your OWN organization to make a POSITIVE difference in your community.

  If all these founders and staff that you so dispise were placed on an island somewhere to die, that would not "bring you to a better place" with yourself.  People have to look inside themselves and make the changes there. Go, be healthy and find your inner peace. (and yes - I expect to get a "fuck you" or "your brainwashed still " responses -- that appears to be typical here)."

Fuck you.  You are brainwashed still.

[Rhonda]

Anonymous has been misinformed.  He said: "You want to try to solve this in the civil courts, but there is no statute of limitations on criminal acts in the state of Florida. "

All crimes have a statute of limitations except for murder (from 2 to 5 years.)  
 You may research it here:
http://www.flsenate.gov/Statutes/index. ... TM&Title=->2004->Ch0775->Section%2015#0775.15

[Anonymous]

Well Rhonda, I guess that sums it up.  And if you look at the OJ case, then you will see it is easier to get a civil judgment than a criminal judgement.  Anymore questions that Rhonda can answer class?

[Anonymous]

Ginger wrote:

The trouble with getting criminal proceedings going against these programs is that the cops are 1) complicit and 2) they don't see anything wrong w/ it.

That is simply not true! And you are contributing to the problem by saying that. The victims don't go to the cops because they think the cops won't do anything. These people are committing serious crimes and the victims need to do what is right and report the crimes. If local and state authorities do nothing, go to the Feds!

Rhonda, you are right, there are limitations on the time to prosecute many crimes. But, a capital or life felony has no time limit. It could certainly be argued that anyone who was in Straight, or any private program that held them against their will, was a victim of kidnapping. In Florida, kidnapping is punishable by life in prison. Doesn't this meet the definition of a "Life Felony"?

And just because it's easier to sue someone than it is to convict on crimianl charges, that doesn't mean it's ok to go straight to a lawyer and skip going to the cops altogether. These are criminal acts! If you are aware of a crime, and you don't report it, you are also guilty of a crime.

[Anonymous]

On 2004-08-10 09:22:00, Anonymous wrote:

Ginger wrote:

The trouble with getting criminal proceedings going against these programs is that the cops are 1) complicit and 2) they don't see anything wrong w/ it.

That is simply not true! And you are contributing to the problem by saying that. The victims don't go to the cops because they think the cops won't do anything. These people are committing serious crimes and the victims need to do what is right and report the crimes. If local and state authorities do nothing, go to the Feds!

Obviously you have never lived in the Tampa Bay area.  During the 1970's - 1993 when straight closed, kids were running to the cops all the time. AND we were taken back to straight or to JDC.  The folks that run the counties, judges, schools, DCF/HRS, cities, etc all were in on keeping us in straight.  I know because I ran4 times.  1 time to the Pinellas Sheriff's office and I was taken back to straight.  2nd time I ran to the school (ST. Pete High school) and I was taken back to straight.  3rd time, I went to the Clw Florida police and was taken back to straight.  The 4th and final time, I ran to my parents, they had a judge court order me to straight.  So again, you have no idea what you are talking about.


Today, the people that ran straight are big fianancial contributors to almost every heavyweight politician in Florida Sembler is ambassador to Italy.  His wife was co-chair of JEB's re-elction campaign.   Senators and State Reps were on Straight's Board of Directors.   The DFAF writes policy for the state of Florida and the US govt.  



Rhonda, you are right, there are limitations on the time to prosecute many crimes. But, a capital or life felony has no time limit. It could certainly be argued that anyone who was in Straight, or any private program that held them against their will, was a victim of kidnapping. In Florida, kidnapping is punishable by life in prison. Doesn't this meet the definition of a "Life Felony"?

And, no, kidnapping in Florida DOES HAVE A STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS.  




And just because it's easier to sue someone than it is to convict on crimianl charges, that doesn't mean it's ok to go straight to a lawyer and skip going to the cops altogether. These are criminal acts! If you are aware of a crime, and you don't report it, you are also guilty of a crime."

[Anonymous]

When YOU (or your parent -when you are a MINOR) SIGN a paper/contract to ENTER a program ... well, that is NOT kidnapping

[ehm]

Well, two very big men came into my house, picked me up (screaming and spitting, biting and scratching) and carried me out my front door. They held me down in the back seat, where I cried and begged for them to let me go. I was driven to the Straight facility, where I was carried in (biting, scratching, spitting and screaming for help) to the front door of Straight, Inc. to which I straddled the door yelling, "NOOOOO!" While I cried. This all happened before I was signed in legally.

Not a good memory, sounds a lot like kidnapping to me.  

Drug War tells us everyone's body is common property
to be managed by the central government for our own
good, even if it kills us.  This is Communism!
Drug Policy Foundation of Texas

--Bob Ramsey

[Cayo Hueso]

On 2004-08-10 10:21:00, Anonymous wrote:

" When YOU (or your parent -when you are a MINOR) SIGN a paper/contract to ENTER a program ... well, that is NOT kidnapping"

You mean when we're FORCED to sign a contract.  Doesn't count.

As your attorney, it is my duty to inform you that it is not important that you understand what I'm doing or why you're paying me so much money.  What's important is that you continue to do so.
--Hunter S. Thompson's Samoan Attorney

[Anonymous]

again, you are incorrect.  We were forced to sign.  Just like forced confessions are not valid.  Duh...is your name Melvin by any chance?

[Antigen]

And even where the parents consented, they did so under false pretenses. Straight described themselves as juvenile drug treatment "professionals". That was bullshit. They told the parents that they had "diagnosed" us as drug addicts. That was also bullshit. And those were just the two most obvious lies.

Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
--Albert Einstein

[animals all of us]

R.,

You called 'some people' foolish earlier in a post.  You did so by saying that when someone does something it makes them look foolish to a more specific extent.

And really, what is this Straight Holocaust?  My lame ass website that threatens to bring them down in under a year has the same thoughts about Straight Holocaust.  I have to wonder did Melvin Sembler put you up to that name since he's on the board there.  American does not have the same laws that Germany did then.

What I find foolish is when you tell people that MCG has decided to move forward and they have found a way around the statute of limitations and its contrary.  When I call them I find out they have dismissed the case two months prior.  You remember the guys name right?  His name was also Melvin, Mel Wright, PA.

So, by your own measure of what is foolish I am not sure what you mean.  What would you think if a former staff member lied to you again while he (and other supposed long term survivors of his crew) was purporting to be for any cause?  Of course you're going to say that your lie is different.  You can even dress it up.  But, still the whole old ass crew of survivors lied about it.

And I still say that a coup de' tat is the only way to make known what you want at this point.

[Anonymous]

Animals - maybe I'm stoned, but your post makes no sense.  Lemmee check.  Hmmm, no, I'm not stoned.

[Anonymous]

On 2004-08-10 11:21:00, Lezli wrote:

"Well, two very big men came into my house, picked me up (screaming and spitting, biting and scratching) and carried me out my front door. They held me down in the back seat, where I cried and begged for them to let me go. I was driven to the Straight facility, where I was carried in (biting, scratching, spitting and screaming for help) to the front door of Straight, Inc. to which I straddled the door yelling, "NOOOOO!" While I cried. This all happened before I was signed in legally.



Not a good memory, sounds a lot like kidnapping to me.

 

WHERE were your parents during all this???   WHY didn't that take action?... call the police?...  do you hold your parents responsible at all???  You WERE a minor at that time, I assume... aren't they responsible for your well-being when you are under age 18?