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« Reply #45 on: August 10, 2004, 06:56:00 PM »
You are right that there are some crimes with no statute of limitations.  I was just saying that the anonymous poster was wrong about there being no limitations on any crime in Florida.
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« Reply #46 on: August 10, 2004, 07:37:00 PM »
Actually those contracts were signed under duress. Were lied to, threatened and coerced. I don't know that I was kidnapped but I was most certainly falsely imprisoned.

Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.

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« Reply #47 on: August 10, 2004, 10:56:00 PM »
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On 2004-08-10 15:35:00, Anonymous wrote:


WHERE were your parents during all this???   WHY didn't that take action?... call the police?...  do you hold your parents responsible at all???  You WERE a minor at that time, I assume... aren't they responsible for your well-being when you are under age 18?"


My mom was there, but she was under the impression that I would DIE without this action being taken. She was already duped by the tough love system, Straight being the second child prison she sent me to. The first being 18 months, and Straight another 18 months. I did almost four years prison time as a child. Yes, I held her responsible, but since that time she has apologized and taken full responsibility for her terrible judgement and actions, and I have forgiven her.

She has a bumper sticker on the back of her car that reads, ?I brake for children fleeing from abusive drug rehabs.  http://www.thestraights.com ?    

A lot of parents were looking for someone else to give them the answers, and as a result, many did terrible things to their children with out realizing, until it was too late. Many families have never recovered from their experiences.

For three days after death, hair and fingernails continue to grow but phone calls taper off.  
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« Reply #48 on: August 10, 2004, 11:57:00 PM »
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On 2004-08-10 15:34:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Animals - maybe I'm stoned, but your post makes no sense.  Lemmee check.  Hmmm, no, I'm not stoned. "


Wasn't speaking to you A.  If I were then you would be made to understand.  Now shutup and face forward, there's nothing to see here.  If you check your sentence composition you would see that it makes no sense.  Hmm, lemmee check, nope ... you forgot to check.  If you were not stoned then it means, by your words, that I made sense.  So, its good to know you understood that there are fallacies abounding.[ This Message was edited by: animals all of us on 2004-08-10 21:27 ]
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« Reply #49 on: August 11, 2004, 09:09:00 AM »
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My mom was there, but she was under the impression that I would DIE without this action being taken. She was already duped by the tough love system, Straight being the second child prison she sent me to. The first being 18 months, and Straight another 18 months. I did almost four years prison time as a child. Yes, I held her responsible, but since that time she has apologized and taken full responsibility for her terrible judgement and actions, and I have forgiven her.



She has a bumper sticker on the back of her car that reads, ?I brake for children fleeing from abusive drug rehabs.  http://www.thestraights.com ?    



A lot of parents were looking for someone else to give them the answers, and as a result, many did terrible things to their children with out realizing, until it was too late. Many families have never recovered from their experiences. "
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  May I ask what kind of things you were doing, to make your parents look into treatment for you in the first place??  (be honest now - don't leave out anything important).
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« Reply #50 on: August 11, 2004, 09:41:00 AM »
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On 2004-08-07 20:14:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2004-08-07 19:53:00, Anonymous wrote:


" As someone who was IN a similar program, many years ago, and benefited from it greatly, I will let you know that most of the posts I've read here are very child-like, vengeful and some authors could pass for mentally ill.   This Bradbury has been an activist for almost 20 years, and what does he have to show for it?  I've never even heard of this "cause" til someone told me about this site last week.  I think most people would think many of you are just a bunch of disgruntled druggies who are still pissed that you were put in a drug program as a teen, and have never willingly accepted any help that you need.  (Kids did not GO to these programs for being a little problematic -- face it).  If you really want to make a difference,  get involved with children organizations that help prevent kids from becoming "troubled teens", or better yet, form your OWN organization to make a POSITIVE difference in your community.


  If all these founders and staff that you so dispise were placed on an island somewhere to die, that would not "bring you to a better place" with yourself.  People have to look inside themselves and make the changes there. Go, be healthy and find your inner peace. (and yes - I expect to get a "fuck you" or "your brainwashed still " responses -- that appears to be typical here)."





Okay, what's your angle here? You didn't post that out of the goodness of your heart (LOL), You have some kind of agenda and I for one would like to know it, are you pumping Melvin?? Pardon the pun...

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Obviously....they used the term "druggie"...His post smacked of program..
 Hes just a random outsider that happened on this site tho! suuure
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« Reply #51 on: August 11, 2004, 10:17:00 AM »
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On 2004-08-10 15:35:00, Anonymous wrote:



On 2004-08-10 11:21:00, Lezli wrote:


"Well, two very big men came into my house, picked me up (screaming and spitting, biting and scratching) and carried me out my front door. They held me down in the back seat, where I cried and begged for them to let me go. I was driven to the Straight facility, where I was carried in (biting, scratching, spitting and screaming for help) to the front door of Straight, Inc. to which I straddled the door yelling, "NOOOOO!" While I cried. This all happened before I was signed in legally.





Not a good memory, sounds a lot like kidnapping to me.



 



WHERE were your parents during all this???   WHY didn't that take action?... call the police?...  do you hold your parents responsible at all???  You WERE a minor at that time, I assume... aren't they responsible for your well-being when you are under age 18?"



Once again...you have proven that you know nothing about the programs...or how they operated...or anything..
 Dont come here and spark deep conversations about things ...you said yourself you just happened upon this site. You dont know anything about any of this...
 At least read up about it first before you just jump in with your inane bullshit.
 


Oh, and Fuck you, you are brainwashed

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« Reply #52 on: August 11, 2004, 10:31:00 AM »
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On 2004-08-11 06:09:00, Anonymous wrote:

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My mom was there, but she was under the impression that I would DIE without this action being taken. She was already duped by the tough love system, Straight being the second child prison she sent me to. The first being 18 months, and Straight another 18 months. I did almost four years prison time as a child. Yes, I held her responsible, but since that time she has apologized and taken full responsibility for her terrible judgement and actions, and I have forgiven her.





She has a bumper sticker on the back of her car that reads, ?I brake for children fleeing from abusive drug rehabs.  http://www.thestraights.com ?    





A lot of parents were looking for someone else to give them the answers, and as a result, many did terrible things to their children with out realizing, until it was too late. Many families have never recovered from their experiences. "

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  May I ask what kind of things you were doing, to make your parents look into treatment for you in the first place??  (be honest now - don't leave out anything important)."


Not really your fucking business is it.You expect her to just dump all of her lifes details and aspill them out to you....for your inspection and judgement as to whether she deserved the abuse?
 You have some nerve motherfucker. Who are you to judge and deem whether or not kids deserved it?

What if she was using drugs? Or having sex? Or drinking and sneaking out?
 Does that mean she deserved lifelong damaging abuse...destruction of her ego? Loss of all self worth for 20 years?

 You need to step back and just bow out of this.
Straight wasnt just some tough treatment program.
 It was blatant abuse, mind control, torture..

How do I know? because I was there.
Wanna know what I did? I was a depressed 12 YEAR OLD...who had a schizophrenic abusive mother and an emotionally detatched father who was gone all of the time.
 I was a virgin
 I had never seen any drugs other than pot I smoked mabey 3 times...

  I was severely withdrawn and depressed and my psycho abusive mother wanted to warehouse me out of her perfect illusion of a life.

I asked for help...and I was lied to..about the program. I had never heard of any of it..I was 12.. I was told I could live with other kids who understood me...and go to six flags and the mall and a new better school...and most of all be away from my mother..who would dig her nails into my wrists until I bled in public till she could get me home to hit me in the face with closed fists...pummeling me calling me "little piece of shit" "fucking bastard" and other wonderful things..
  After 12 years of that...of course I was withdrawn and depressed and oing bad in school.
My mother had convinced me from the time I was old enough to think that I was a piece of trash.


 SO did I deserve it?


 Now stop asking people their personal history its not your concern..
 I saw handfulls of kids who were in there and were sexually abused...I watched as they were goaded and screamed at and told it was their fault for being a little druggie whore...that they were raped by their unles etc...


Now kindly shut the fuck up...and go tend to things you know something about.How dare you come on here with your haughty judgemental attitude.

Know what? I am fucking mentally ill.
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« Reply #53 on: August 11, 2004, 12:40:00 PM »
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On 2004-08-11 06:09:00, Anonymous wrote:

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  May I ask what kind of things you were doing, to make your parents look into treatment for you in the first place??  (be honest now - don't leave out anything important)."


How dare you assume that she's lying or hiding anything! Who the hell are you? You reek of program thought and obviously prefer to control and put others down rather than see the obvious truth of what is in front of you. Does it make you feel good, on the inside? I doubt it.
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« Reply #54 on: August 11, 2004, 12:52:00 PM »
Anonymous, I was 13 years old. My father had been killed in a car accident 6 months before I was put in my first child prison. Before that he had physically and emotionally abused me since the age of two because of his own severe emotional problems. I was a very unhappy child, and it showed, for good reason.

I was raped by my stepbrother (my mom remarried almost immediately) who was 24 and I 13. He also gave me cocaine, pot and alcohol during those times. Going to prison camp for 18 months helped none of those things, and my stepbrother, whom I ratted out in camp, and in Straight was never held accountable legally for his actions. That was how I lost my virginity.

By 15 I had been raped again, several times by a guy my mom was letting live in our guest room after my stepfather died of colon cancer. Within another 6-9 month time span I was basically kidnapped and sent to Straight. I was a runaway for about two weeks before Straight, because I was scared to death of being sent away again, and really hated my home life because I felt no safety there.

 I forgot to mention the psyche ward my mom sent me to in-between prisons. It was all punishment based and pumping me full of drugs.

I was a troubled child and teen, and by the way, I don?t appreciate being told, "Now, be honest..." Don't talk to me like I'm a child, or make these kind of underhanded accusations while trying to extract from me very personal answers. I am an emotionally healthy 33 year old woman. I set healthy boundaries in my life today, and will not allow myself to be abused or manipulated. I have an emotionally healthy, happy, well adjusted 13 year old daughter, who is pulling a 3.7 GPA who loves to read and is a wonderful writer. Please give me the respect I deserve.  I have been completely honest. Even in Straight I never lied. It just so happens that the first time I ever tried cocaine, it was my mother's that I found in her dressing room. Same thing with pot. This was before my father died, but all of that is really beside the point. My mother was looking for an easy way out of the responsibility she signed up for by having a child, and she found some ?easy ways? that damn near destroyed me, and cost her a lot of money in the process. Not to mention causing immutable damage to our relationship.

As I said before, my mother today is utterly regretful about these poor decisions she made with me, and has cried to me, asking forgiveness. It's taken 18 years for me to get past the pain sufficiently. To be able to put things into proper perspective, and have a relationship with my mother at all, is a miracle. I owe most of that to therapy, but all of it to God.

These tough love programs don?t help parents raise a healthy, mentally stable child. They destroy their spirits and drive wedges between families. Parents should raise their children, in every aspect. Therapy can be very helpful, but therapy takes time and patience to work. Sending your child away to be punished conveys one big message, ABANDONMENT.
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« Reply #55 on: August 11, 2004, 09:17:00 PM »
My apologies.  I had serious doubts about several who said they were in the program.  I know alot of 'us' have trouble even now with relationships.  Disabilities were created and some remain even after several years.

Awhile ago, Bradbury mentioned that I should find an attorney to fight and make a litigation against the Federal Government.  I was wondering if anyone would like to hop on board with me on this one.  

I am feeling very tired of seeing so much child abuse linger in the adults, people who would not be this way if they had not been treated with neglect and recklessness.  

I would have known you in a different light, in a different life - and you deserve to be safe and feel that you are worthy of whoever it is you really want to be.  These oppurtunities to develop into a healthy adult were probably stolen from you.  This happened on a very legal platform that, from what some have said, should definitely be tried in court.

I heard from a friend the other day.  He said:  "Its not enough to write one letter.  You have to write five a week until the person you want to listen to you starts listening."  

Its not enough to protest or to do some things and then say - well I tried but nothing happened so now my pride dictates myself.  By giving it your all you give all of your time, effort, creativity, willingness to let go and let the thing become what it deserves to be.  

Let Sembler's actions; let Loebenberg's actions; let Bush's actions; let Reagan's actions dictate what your actions will be.  They not only lied and made sure that you and me and thousands of other children had no hope of succeeding in the court systems, but they destroyed families and lives beyond any measure they could have known.

Protests every year, conventions, letters...its not enough.  A movie will die after a few weeks when it is released.  News comes out every day and the next day there's more news of anything you want to hear.

I am willing to put together a tight NightShift of people who really want to pump some new life into any cause against Straight - and make sure we change the legal system and its statutes.  I will organize, harrass, enlighten, boss around, 'go nuts', and generally just kick some tail in trying to pull together some people who want to be creative enough to try new things to get some attention, media, change of apathy from the law and from society regarding its deadly perceptions, shaming, nonconversational and 'not me', rugswept and fat attitudes about child abuse and child rapists.  Within your neighborhood block their live many personalities.  Within a four block radius of you maybe at least one child abuser or even a child molester lives, she or he may not be registered with your county.  Maybe you know them.  But I bet you don't.  Are they leaving their children unattended.  Do you notice that some parents in your neighborhood let their children roam the neighborhood for a few hours after school, the parents are at work?  Some parents let their children roam the neighborhood to 'find friends'.  Does anyone in your neighborhood take special interest in your children?  Perhaps they like to babysit your children even though you don't ask for it.  If your child is getting in trouble at school or other places, have you considered that you might be breaking the law and not supervising them the way they deserve to be supervised?  

Remember only one thing:  

Straight Inc. is not about the abuses it did to just you.  There are others out there it happened to and worse; these things are still happening.  Facilities are being built every day, some are not under the guise of 'treatment' either.  3 million to 4 million children are molested every year worldwide.  That Straight Incorporated existed and its criminals are still at large is just one small example of the purely evil and useless, daily crimes against children.

Therefore, you are able to deduce from this high numbered statistic that your cause is worth going absolutely crazy over, worth being paranoid of your neighbor or any person for that matter who claims to be in authority (church, state, law, etc).  This cause you take, your cross, is one about making sure that innocence is not taken away from other children.  The laws must be changed and stipulations and fines must be made to hurt when parents can't get counseling or make the family life work and decide to leave their children neglected, abandoned or abused, or left unsupervised.  Its the children who get ousted and left out in the cold or starve or die when parents can't get their lives organized and they dump their children off on others without investigating so much as a background check; when an institution that keeps staff members or clergy or guardians housed and fed while they let spread their disease on undeserving juveniles; or when any person in a position of authority such as staff member, policeman, politician, church member, babysitter, teacher, parent and/or other over a child decides to misuse the given privilege for their own emptiness and misconceptions or frivoloty about old and applicable privacy and unnaplicable laws.  

Raising children in a world fit to be raised is always about the child.  Otherwise, don't abide over, or even have children.  

I am prejudiced for all children while I am working and fighting for them and for myself.  Children raise many questions in my mind that I do not take lightly, if you say the wrong thing and mess up you can go to jail or they might get hurt or you might get something stuck to you that won't come off.  But these cautions and precautions aren't the hinderances against developing a world more free of violence, animalistic behaviors, and non community interactions.  You know it is the laws that actually protect the criminals who molest children and abuse them, it is population consent and misperceptions about child human rights that children cannot have any say when it comes to what others do to them or use them in legal and authoritative abuse.  

What is yesterday is still important only if it is used to make today better.  I WILL do my part now.  I AM doing my part now.  I am joining with you in finding more productive and creative ways to irradicate criminalities, set new precedence for our world and its next generations who, in not too many years from now, will be driving our cars and working to serve their communities and raising their own children and shopping at our stores and living next door to us and living in our own homes?  

I'm not being abstract in the least here.  Children can be rescued from neglect and abuse, and in so doing this creates a safer neighborhood and better humans who have more desire.  And not a desire to continue cycles of abuse or neglect or senses of guilt and perjury under the eyes of god or state or country or family, not a desire or wish to harm others because of what was done to them or not done to them.  

We are developing desires to continue development and impenetrable growth of that imminent safety, that abiding community, even that fellowship and trust - that comes from knowing we are innocent in the eyes of each other.

Now you give me the word.  We organize a unit that will go crazy and find our enemies behind bars or better.  Commit me, and commit yourself to this cause.  Fight the way we were fought against.  We are bigger and older and healthier and much, much wiser now.  They cannot hurt us now.  Call me, write me.  I will respond.

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« Reply #56 on: September 26, 2004, 03:22:00 AM »
I can't wait for the exciting news.
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« Reply #57 on: September 26, 2004, 03:34:00 AM »
Bradbury will string you along, so will Wes....but when you try to get close to information that they know you should rightfully have - such as court documents or attorney information - they can't be contacted or bothered. Ray is purported to have broken into a wharehouse and have stolen information, where is that information now?  I doubt he really closed any Straight.  

For that matter, I closed a Straight Inc.  Write to me and I'll tell you how I did it.
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« Reply #58 on: September 27, 2004, 05:47:00 PM »
:wave: [ This Message was edited by: sammiegirl on 2004-09-27 14:49 ]
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« Reply #59 on: September 27, 2004, 05:48:00 PM »
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"Reagan, Mike, Ginger, you guys are obviously blinded by your anger, since you totally misunderstood me. I think Straight was terrible. I also think that the war criminals, including Bradbury, should be held accountable for their crimes. Perhaps his good deeds could be considered by the judge during the sentencing phase.



Why are you so eager to get my email address anyway?"

I AM SICK OF IT JUST FUCKING SICK OF IT.....
Rich is not nor ever was a criminal!!!!! I am sick of you anon pro sembler pro straight jackasses posting here... Go start your own site. Get the fuck off of here. If you disagree with the sacrafices rich et al are doing then go do something counter productive! Instead you sit on your asses surfing the net like a bunch of loosers. What your wife not giving you any??? Well I know of a pump that can relieve you of your pent up tension. Its on Ebay and hey your messiah has left a little deposit for you so you can feel a little closer to the fucked up scumbag that PROFITED OFF OF OUR TORTURE.... DON'T YOU GET IT. ARE YOU THAT IGNORANT. DID STRAIGHT CRAWL SO FAR UP YOUR ASS THAT YOU NOW CHOKE ON THE BILE OF PAIN WE ALL SUFFERED.
YOU KNOW WHAT I AM IN NY AND I INVITE YOU TO COME ON UP AND HAVE A PUBLIC DEBATE ABOUT THE "GOODNESS OF STRAIGHT" I'LL PAY FOR THE VENUE YOU JUST SHOW YOUR ASS UP. AND OH YEAH BY THE WAY. YOU'LL HAVE TO GIVE YOUR NAME OUT TO BE A PART OF IT. OH YEAH YOUR TOO MUCH OF A PUSSY TO SAY WHO YOUR ARE. JUST ANOTHER ANONOMOUS PERSON USING VERBAL MASTERBATION TO GET HIS/HER ROCKS OFF.
SIT THE FUCK DOWN, OR FACE UP. YOU LITTLE LONELY PRICKS>>>>> :evil:
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