On 2004-08-10 09:22:00, Anonymous wrote:
Ginger wrote:
The trouble with getting criminal proceedings going against these programs is that the cops are 1) complicit and 2) they don't see anything wrong w/ it.
That is simply not true! And you are contributing to the problem by saying that. The victims don't go to the cops because they think the cops won't do anything. These people are committing serious crimes and the victims need to do what is right and report the crimes. If local and state authorities do nothing, go to the Feds!
Obviously you have never lived in the Tampa Bay area. During the 1970's - 1993 when straight closed, kids were running to the cops all the time. AND we were taken back to straight or to JDC. The folks that run the counties, judges, schools, DCF/HRS, cities, etc all were in on keeping us in straight. I know because I ran4 times. 1 time to the Pinellas Sheriff's office and I was taken back to straight. 2nd time I ran to the school (ST. Pete High school) and I was taken back to straight. 3rd time, I went to the Clw Florida police and was taken back to straight. The 4th and final time, I ran to my parents, they had a judge court order me to straight. So again, you have no idea what you are talking about.
Today, the people that ran straight are big fianancial contributors to almost every heavyweight politician in Florida Sembler is ambassador to Italy. His wife was co-chair of JEB's re-elction campaign. Senators and State Reps were on Straight's Board of Directors. The DFAF writes policy for the state of Florida and the US govt.
Rhonda, you are right, there are limitations on the time to prosecute many crimes. But, a capital or life felony has no time limit. It could certainly be argued that anyone who was in Straight, or any private program that held them against their will, was a victim of kidnapping. In Florida, kidnapping is punishable by life in prison. Doesn't this meet the definition of a "Life Felony"?
And, no, kidnapping in Florida DOES HAVE A STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS.
And just because it's easier to sue someone than it is to convict on crimianl charges, that doesn't mean it's ok to go straight to a lawyer and skip going to the cops altogether. These are criminal acts! If you are aware of a crime, and you don't report it, you are also guilty of a crime."