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An open discussion about the troubled parent industry

Don't put words in my mouth
there are people doing great things
in tough situations
should those people do nothing for fear of failure?
or because other people have failed?

AND

What is easy about it?
If the child did not have an issue there would be no reason to do anything.   Even in the most supported environment some of these kids are hard to work with.  The major issue is finding support from the group you're working with and the parents.  You're getting attacked from three different sides.  I'm not dodging accountability.  There should be more of it.  I'm all for it.

I think the point is that any blanket statements are not going to be true about child care.  There are too many variables and combinations.  There are individual children with individual needs.  There are workers with good intent and bad intent.  There are workers with good skills and those without. There are parents that try and those that don't.  It is all out there.

I have plenty of ideas about work I do and work I have done in the past.  I feel like being on this forum and mentioning that I have worked at the ranch will make me some sort of representative and that is not the case.  I have not worked there for several years.  

My goal is and was to be on the side of the child and I pray for anybody else that shares that goal because it is not easy

Reading and doing are two different things.
I am all for new ideas.
I am all for education and research.
I support your ideas and I hope they work.
I am more for application and chances to serve.
I don't  think i am an expert.
i am far far from it.
i have too much respect for the people that do this to think that of myself.
i just wanted to add that good things happened at star ranch,
as well as what ever negative things  happened there.
I worked there in the past, and I worked hard to do my job well, and I know several other people that did the same.
I have seen and read enough to know the gaps between
talk and application.
people doing is where it is at.
show me that.
It is what I am looking for.

I agree with your industry comment
Making this work about dollars will never work
People's hearts need to change
I don't think the state is able to address that
It is a huge part of why i stopped working for them

I dont know what happened at the ranch
I am not connected to the people there
but I have been in the past

It provided a chance to do something that mattered to the person that wanted it, and I knew several people that did

I got a two year masters degree in special education with an emphasis in behavior disorders.
I learned through studying research and experience what works.
I then went to work for a supervisor that had 0 years of special ed experience much less experience with behavior disorders. The school was required to have the program on the campus by the state.  No one wanted it there. I got to deal with all that that created as well as knowing what is suppose to be done and not being in a position to do anything about it.

I saw a mentor with decades of experience running progressive least restrictive programs all over the country being attacked by teachers in a school run poorly because they were threatened by change.  I saw administrators in the poorly run school that had been in the field for over 20 years refering to and using restraints as "compliance holds".  

I have worked for 2 different RTCs in Texas and have seen the extreme staff turn over.  There is not enough funding to keep qualified people.

I got to work in one of the best situations that I have ever seen in terms of people educated and experienced.  I saw the staff over worked and under payed.  

I have no problem giving names and dates, but i have done that before on this sight and responses were off topic and aimed only at attacking my credibility.  Believe me or don't.  I have nothing to prove.

Thank you for attempting to answer my question instead of blindly attacking the character of someone you know nothing about.

I have seen the good, bad, and ugly
I have seen it misused and misguided
I have also seen situations where children's safety was on the line
and it was needed

the bottom line is support

child care in texas is grossly under supported

I am worried about anybody that tries to do anything

I suspect much myself.  It does not make it relevant.  I have been around folks who have spent decades doing research, training, and being trained on how to descalate any potential situation.  It may only be 5% of the time that anything physical happens in their presence, but it is still dangerous.  Any time you are talking about holding someone that does not want to be held it is dangerous.  Any time you are talking about a group of kids that will spit, hit, punch, or kick it is dangerous.  So what do you do?  You don"t serve these kids needs?