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The Troubled Teen Industry / Public information
« on: August 06, 2007, 08:16:14 PM »
Quote from: ""Nilla""
Quote from: ""Guest""
Bump.  Got any more info?

J Rose   3980 Tree Top Dr    Weston, FL 33332   (954) 433-9257


or from google:

J Rose   (954) 433-9257   3980 Tree Tops Rd,  Hollywood, FL 33026

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Public information
« on: August 06, 2007, 07:55:26 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
Bump.  Got any more info?


J Rose   3980 Tree Top Dr    Weston, FL 33332   (954) 433-9257

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Teen Challenge / Father Lohan
« on: August 01, 2007, 04:47:23 AM »
Did you see Larry King Interview with Lindsay Lohan's dad (who just got out of jail in March) praising Teen Challenge-- in which he is now an employee? He is hoping he can "get Lindsay to go"... "its not just for teens."

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Olivers Law
« on: July 19, 2007, 01:06:38 AM »
Would a law such as this -- applied to the industry slow it down?  Would it slow down the referral sources?  

http://childaction.org/families/publica ... rs_Law.pdf

http://info.sen.ca.gov/pub/99-00/statut ... 999_ab_458

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Why doesnt the DHS have the power to shut down programs that are not in compliance.  18 months is a ridiculous amount of time.  

I am mortified that it can take months to shut down a program, they CAN run an unlicensed program and only be hit with a misdemenor IF someone is harmed.  If someone dies or the program is shut down they have wait 12 months to open it up in another name.  However, it seems there is loopholes around that as well.  

No wonder so many programs are running out of Utah.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / BaBa WaWa's Daughter
« on: July 17, 2007, 11:02:13 AM »
http://www.daughtersatrisk.com/clinical_model.html

Anyone know the background regarding the "stages of change model?"

Facilitating Change

Parents, families and therapists frequently ask about the model and theoretical perspectives New Horizons uses when working with young women. Although each therapist brings his or her own experience and perspectives to the work, New Horizon's philosophy, programming and overall approach is consistent with a Stages of Change model.

The Stages of Change model is a trans-theoretical model developed by psychologists James Prochaska, PhD and Carlos Diclemente, PhD. It is research-based and used in both medical and mental health programs across the country. All New Horizons staff are trained in this trans-theoretical model and the New Horizons stages (Orientation, Truth, Friendship, Forgiveness & Transition), and assignments associated with each are designed to appropriately assist the students as they move through a process of change.

Prochaska, Norcross & Diclemente (2002) Changing for Good, Quill, publisher.

Prochaska & Diclemente outline six stages that individuals go through when changing behaviors. The same stages have been identified in change behaviors like smoking cessation, weight loss, abstinence and health modifications. Alongside these common stages of change, the authors identify therapeutic techniques that are most helpful during each stage.

New Horizons therapists may use cognitive behavioral techniques, art therapy, psychodrama or skills teaching, depending on where a student is in the change process.

The Stages of Change are



Precontemplative
Contemplative
Preparation
Action
Maintenance & Relapse
Termination

Students most often come to New Horizons in the Precontemplative stage, and the focus of our work is to help them move into Contemplation and Preparation for change. The preparation and early practice of change needs to continue once they leave New Horizons. Going on to therapeutic schools allows many students to continue the work of preparation and action in a supportive environment. Pushing a student too quickly into the action of change before she has fully owned the desire to change for herself can lead to superficial success and/or unsuccessful change.
         Clinical Model
       



Check out our
Parent Workbook

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The Troubled Teen Industry / New longer WWASP video
« on: July 17, 2007, 01:22:33 AM »
This is the guy who "allegedly" attempted to sexually assault his step daughter.

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Why can't he attend public school?  (You mentioned he would be home all day by himself).

What is it about the school that makes you think they can do a better job than you can?  

You would be able to oversee the therapies you want him to receive.  

What is it about his behavior that makes it impossible for him to live at home?

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The Troubled Teen Industry / GAO Hearings and Congress
« on: July 16, 2007, 05:20:48 PM »
Quote from: "Scarlett Chiclet"
Yup, yup and thanks for that. That's the difference between honest doubt and mud slinging. And thanks, Frod n Gook for the praise.

Just trying to figure out what the role of GAO might be here. As I understand their role, it's all about auditing Federal spending on a cost/benefit basis. Couple of years ago they came back with a most unwelcome (to the drug warriors) report on drug war spending. I wonder if their standing is on Faith Based and Community Initiatives spending. And, in this overly long political season, I would like to take this opportunity to point out that that was a Clinton program taken over and renamed by the B

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The Troubled Teen Industry / GAO Hearings and Congress
« on: July 16, 2007, 11:13:59 AM »
Quote from: ""Scarlett Chiclet""
Curioser and curioser...

Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote
202.512.3674

See that? That's a phone number.

DO NOT talk about the hellhole you went to over the phone. Just don't. It's a waste of everyone's time, and nobody wants people calling them up with it. This needs to be in writing for it to mean jack shit. What you do is you ask him how you can have your testimony entered into the formal record. And then you send it to him by certified mail. If you really want to play hardball, get a notary public to co-sign it. This just shows you're serious.

I just called this number. There is no such government agency that I know of called the Government Accountability Office. There Is one called the Government Accounting office.

Anyway, I'm only peeking in. Still busy putting my life back together right about now. Hate to be a drive by poster, but a lick and a promise will have to do for now.


They recently changed the name of the organization.

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"TS W - NO way am I referring any parent or anyone else to this school. I was duped. I felt desperate at the time and compromised on this placement"

Act- Are you still considering Wilderness "Therapy" Camp as another option for  your child?  Have you done any research on the risks and theraputic value of WTC's? Please look up the Lewis and Harvey nightmares with WTC.  

What is keeping you from having your mentally ill son at home?  I see you have a laundry list of issues regarding the school.  What keeps you from removing him and placing him in therapy and working with him at home?  Is he violent?  Are you concerned about others in the home? I am having trouble understanding why he is still in the facility.

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TSW-  She has provided the name of the school her son goes to.. therefore we can discuss the facility.  Is it possible to return it to the original forum?  .

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The Troubled Teen Industry / GAO Hearings and Congress
« on: July 14, 2007, 02:39:31 AM »
Quote from: ""Devlin""
i thought CATEY was with caca and IZZY. They are not connected? im sorry for making the connection if i was wrong someone please fill me in....

Anyways  now not only one group knows who to call to arrange testimony if there is hearings.


http://www.cafety.com/    
Community Alliance for the Fair and Ethical Treatment of Youth

Kathryn Whitehead is the Principal.  She is a young adult who is a survivor of a Montana based TBS.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / GAO Hearings and Congress
« on: July 13, 2007, 10:36:39 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote
Ms. Smith,
Thank you for your e-mail. Let me clarify who we (GAO) are and the
circumstances of the possible public hearing. The Government
Accountability
Office is an independent agency in the legislative branch. Our mission
is to
help Congress improve the performance and accountability of the federal
government. We do objective fact-based studies and investigations for
Congress, usually at the request of or when mandated by Congress. Once
completed and released, our studies are made available to the public on
our
Web site, www.gao.gov. We do not have authority to hold hearings, but
often
are asked to testify at hearings held by various Congressional
committees.

That said, you probably heard about us because we are currently
conducting
reviews of aspects of residential treatment facilities for children.
Our
work was requested by Representative George Miller, Chairman of the
House
Committee on Education and Labor. Our report will not be released until
early 2008.
.

You
can contact that committee or visit their Web site for more information
on
whether and when they will be holding hearings. If you have more
questions,
please feel free to call me at 202.512.3674.
Kay Brown

Kay E. Brown
Acting Director
USGAO
202 512-3674

I'm reading it as the GAO will not be holding hearings, but will be conducting interviews and other fact finding activities. The hearings, if any, will be held by congress at a later time.


A hearing could be conducted at anytime.  It is my understanding the folks over at CAFETY are trying to get the word out to survivors should they want to participate.  

"Any hearings on the subject would be scheduled by the House
committee and are not necessarily linked to the release of our report"

I am sure it is just semantics and the understanding of the exact process of the hearings and how it takes place.  I know that CAFETY is NOT trying to gather this information for their own purposes.  Their intent is real and they are just taking on the task of getting the information out to the folks in case a hearing takes place.   It is absurd to assume otherwise.

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I disagree with the advise from "otherside" regarding Outward Bound.  

http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?t= ... ward+bound

As far as the other residential treatment centers go, its a crapshoot.  By your description of the school he is in, how were they negligent?  Can you bring him home and seek outside sources from there?  I think having your child away from you is not going to make him bond with the family.  Instead of spending money on what is marketed as a "fixim' up program." Spend those resources on local medical professionals.  Even if you need extra help in your home to work with him one on one.  

Check out this link, you might be able to find information to help you seek appropriate care for your son.  Please stay away from any type of "program." (TBS, Wilderness Therapy &/or Bootcamps) Your direct hands on involvement in his treatment is what will help him through hard times with his illness.

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