// An "understanding of what occured" and "various theories about it" or mutually exclusive ideas, Buzzkill //
No they aren't Greg.
Most Christians are aware that there are different ideas about when the crucifixion took place in relation to the resurrection; and most are aware of the various ideas on the subject - and most understand that one theory or another is correct - and all agree that what ever the case - it did happen.
// Or as your quoted plagiarist says //
If you want to insist hes a plagiarist you need to provide the plagiarized material.
// Yet the bible is all over the place on this event. //
No its not Greg. It tells the story from different perspectives with varying details given by the various authors - but all agree remarkably on the central facts. Furthermore - none of the varying details are mutually exclusive - all can be, and are, true.
Further more, if it were a lie, these men would not have been willing to die to proclaim it.
// By "all" I must assume you mean biblical scholars. //
No Greg - I meant the Gospel writers, and Paul and Peter, John, James and Jude.
I know what a bunch of deceived humanist today's seminaries are churning out, and so don't have much respect for the theologians they produce; the likes of which you have quoted. They are the Mothers and Fathers of the apostate "one world" church.
// I could do this all day, Buzzkill. That is, quote biblical scholars that refute your assertions. //
Sure you can. And so can I. You say the evidence is flimsy, and I say that is your deceived mind's wishful thinking. The evidence is profound and mighty; and has convinced many an honest seeker who began the search just as sure it was false as you are.
// Take the easter test Buzzkill...tell us in your own words what happened that day!
You can't do it, because there will be passages that contradict what you say, no matter what position you take. //
I think Gedion did a pretty good job with this. Thats why I posted the link.
// The bible appears to be written by man creating god in his own image. //
The existence of Biblical prophecy makes this impossible Greg. The Bible can be used to prove the Bible, b/c of the Prophecy contained in it.
When John wrote Revelations - how could he imagine the Whole world being able to witness anything? The whole world. No way could he, as a first century man, conceive of such a thing. But today? Not a problem.
How could he have imagined any one man's government, controlling all the worlds finances, to the point no one could buy or sell with out his permission? And yet today - we are very close. The technology already exist. In light of the problems with ID theft and organized crime, ect., I expect it will be sold to the world as a safety feature. No cash will solve many problems. Maybe even win the drug war. There will be no cards to loose or have stolen or forged - as all will carry 'the mark' that will serve as positive and reliable ID, and hold all their financial info- and probably much more besides - complete medical history perhaps. Its going to sound like a great idea, and the whole world will be grateful for the wisdom of the man who brings it about.
When he declares himself god (and he will) will you then believe? And who will you believe in then?
Do you think we ought to move this over to the Open Forum?
