Beat them!

[GregFL]

You guys miss a point.  Wes Is primarily a researcher, not a writer,  and a dedicated one at that. If you don't like his content or website, you are not forced to go there. However, it has been used by countless journalists as a reference.

There are other resources available to those of you that take exception to the site (such as Rickross.com and Stanton Peele, ISaac..to name a few).

But to slam and insult the man for his efforts is just wrong. FKA, before you defend yourself, I am not saying you are doing that, I recognize your criticism of the website and not the man. You are entitled to your opinion.  What I am talking about is the vicious personal attacks for nothing. It is moronish, childish, and disruptive.

[Anonymous]

Could I interest you in some real estate next door to Wes Fager?(Wes Fager:Child abusing oldcommer parent,known for and admits to locking young minor children in his bedroom and concealing their location from their parents and depriving them of telephoning their parents and limiting their access to a toilet and "beltlooping" them and restricting their freedom of movment and holding them against their will in his moving vehicle and delivering them daily to a building where they suffered abuse in a cult,etc,etc)

[Antigen]

On 2005-04-27 09:06:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Could I interest you in some real estate next door to Wes Fager?(Wes Fager:Child abusing oldcommer parent,known for and admits to locking young minor children in his bedroom and concealing their location from their parents and depriving them of telephoning their parents and limiting their access to a toilet and "beltlooping" them and restricting their freedom of movment and holding them against their will in his moving vehicle and delivering them daily to a building where they suffered abuse in a cult,etc,etc)"

Just like 90% (at least!) of the people involved in the program. And let's not forget the teachers, cops, friends, neighbors, relatives and others who know something of what goes on in these places, but stick their thumbs up their asses and do nothing to help. Then, of course, there are all of their philisophical brethren accross the world, like the Moonies and No Koreans, the Saudi Arabians and the Taliban and all the whack radical sub cults of every religion.

If you're going to start killing all of us, you've really got your work cut out for you. I would suggest to you that hand tools will not be nearly sufficient to even start your work in any signifficant way without our grandchildren's lifetimes.

Yeah, I'm pretty damned sure we need a bigger contingency before we can do anything really meaningful about the problem. If we have a big enough contingency, then we don't need violence at all. We just take their money. They're all welfare whores and snitches by trade anyway. It's our money. We don't have to keep giving it to them. We just have to get some more of our fucked up fellow citizens to agree and the funding and protection vanish. Then they're not a threat to anyone except those foolish enough to get involved w/ them on a personal level.

The trouble with practical jokes is that very often they get elected.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0380768089/circlofmiamithem' target='_new'>Will Rogers, American humorist, political commentator and cowboy philosopher

[GregFL]

Fuck...who here was never an "olcomer" and never beltlooped another kid, or for that matter had newcomers?

[Antigen]

fka, what is on that site that's anywhere near that offensive?

Christianity is the most ridiculous, the most absurd and bloody religion that has ever infected the world.
--Francois Marie Arouet "Voltaire", French author and playwright

[Anonymous]

Nothing.  He's just a control freak.  He doesn't like Wes' site, he doesn't like this one, guess he doesn't like the Alum site either since he doesn't post over there.  

WTF dude???  You're not happy with anyone else's efforts, fucking DO something of your own.  Ya fuckin' moron!  Get off your lazy, petty, self centered, self pitying, spiteful, vindictive, childish ass and DO something!   Jeez, it ain't that goddamn complicated. :roll:  :roll:

[Anonymous]

This is the wrong thread. Brian Dodd aka fka Animals said so. This convo should be taking place on: "Wes Fager discredits our cause."

[Anonymous]

^^^^^DELETE THIS NOW!!!!!^^^^^^

[`]

On 2005-04-27 12:32:00, Antigen wrote:

"fka, what is on that site that's anywhere near that offensive?"

maybe later i can compile a list of some of the links to which i am referring and send them to you.

[Anonymous]

No.

[Anonymous]

Brian Dodd is NOT, I repeat- NOT Animals.

[Anonymous]

On 2005-04-27 12:40:00, fka wrote:

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On 2005-04-27 12:32:00, Antigen wrote:


"fka, what is on that site that's anywhere near that offensive?"

maybe later i can compile a list of some of the links to which i am referring and send them to you. "

That'd be great!  If you come up with anything NEARLY as offensive as what psycho boy has posted (death threats, putting an aborted fetus up for sale, suggesting suicide to other survivors etc.) I might be able to take this a little more seriously.

[Antigen]

Ok, I keep trying to go look for the really awful stuff, but I keep getting side tracked by interesting stuff.

Aritlcle "4/25/05 The O'Reilly Factor vs. Calvina Fay" links to http://www.dpna.org/3fayoreillyinterview.htm which says, in part:

O'REILLY:  I had -- what's his name, the talk show host, tell me in my ear, Montel Williams, on this program.  And he said the -- and he has M.S. He said the Miranol didn't take his M.S. symptoms away.  He had to have the marijuana cigarette in his lungs in order to get relief.

     Now I have no reason to doubt Mr. Williams.  And I feel bad he's got M.S.  And I don't care if he smokes marijuana.  I think that's, you know, humane to take my position there.  Am I wrong?

     FAY:  Well, first, let me say that I feel bad that he has M.S. also. And it is a very devastating disease that many people suffer from.  But smoking a marijuana joint is not administering a valid medicine.

     O'REILLY:  Yes, but he says it is.  See, Williams says it is.

     FAY:  Well, let's...

     O'REILLY:  I mean, do we have the right to tell Williams, who has a legitimate medical condition, that he can't smoke a marijuana cigarette?

     FAY:  I think we do.

     O'REILLY:  Really?

     FAY:  I think as a country, as a civilized nation, we have to have rules in effect.  And it's there to protect people.  You know, we went through a time when we had snake oil salesmen pushing anything and
everything, calling it medicine.  That's why we have a system in this country that requires good research behind things that we want to label as medicine.  It has to go through a process.  It has to be proven to have medical efficacy.  It has to be proven to be safe.  And it has to be administered in a logical way.

     O'REILLY:  All right, well I disagree with you on that.  I mean, I'd give Montel Williams and everybody in his position all the marijuana they wanted, but there's no question that people who just want to get high are abusing the system in California.

     FAY:  But Bill, when people use the drug, they do feel good.  Itdoesn't...

     O'REILLY:  I understand, but if you have M.S., I want you to feel as good as you can feel.  Ms. Fay, thanks very much.  And "The Factor" will be back in just a few moments.

Wow :eek: Never thought I'd see the day! Did you?

Ok, I'm going back now and try harder to focus on my objective.

Suppose you were an idiot.  And suppose you were a member of Congress.  But I repeat myself.
Anonymity Anonymous
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[`]

i do feel good when i smoke marijuana!  :eek:   )

okay. i still say there is unnecessary smuttery over there that makes the whole damned thing look UNBELIEVABLE.

nevertheless, it is good to say what is good and that is some task, compiling all the Related Information that comes along in the current media.

[Anonymous]

On 2005-04-27 12:53:00, fka wrote:


okay. i still say there is unnecessary smuttery over there that makes the whole damned thing look UNBELIEVABLE.

I'm not arguing that point at all.  I find Wes' site very difficult to follow and way too political for my taste.  It is HIS site though, so who am I to tell him what he should or should not post?  And nothing on that site could be compared to what Animals has posted here about Wes, Sammie and others.  Honestly, any reasonable person would draw that conclusion, IMO.

Animals is a big baby.  He doesn't get his way so he pouts and throws a fucking tantrum.   I understand that we all came out of there with problems, but Jesus Fucking Christ!!!!  You don't see him as being even slightly out of hand and over the top here?